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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <JBottomley@parallels.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: Silence unnecessary warnings about ioctl to partition
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 17:49:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FA157A6.7050209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120502161038.01ee9b59@pyramind.ukuu.org.uk>

Il 02/05/2012 17:10, Alan Cox ha scritto:
>>> Also I tend to side with Alan that I don't quite see
>>> the point in trying to restrict CAP_SYS_RAWIO threads and thus breaking the
>>> compatibility
>>
>> For example, we have a customer that wants this:
>>
>> * a VM should be able to send vendor-specific commands to a disk via
>> SG_IO (vendor-specific commands require CAP_SYS_RAWIO).
>>
>> * they want to assign logical volumes or partitions to the same VM
>> without letting it read or write outside the logical volume or partition.
> 
> And if the process has CAP_SYS_RAWIO it can do it anyway.

How so?  Assuming /dev/sdb is not accessible, /dev/sdb1 is accessible,
and no iopl/ioperm.

> Or you could just do the special case ioctl magic out of band in the apps.

You mentioned crass/gross hacks.  Forcing apps to detect if you're
targeting a partition or a block device _is_ gross.

> It's hardly an ultra performance critical path for the SG_IO cases.

That I agree with.

>> Of course a better solution for this would be customizable filters for
>> SG_IO commands, where a privileged application would open the block
>> device with CAP_SYS_RAWIO, set the filter and hand the file descriptor
>> to QEMU.  Or alternatively some extension of the device cgroup.  But
>> either solution would require a large amount of work.
> 
> Customisable filters are not hard. We've got all the filtering code in
> kernel and the ability to verify filters, even the ability to JIT them.
> Just support adding/removing/running a BPF filter on the channel in
> question.
> 
> So it shouldn't be much code to do what you want.

Yes, it's not much code if I don't get into cgroups land and stick with
a ioctl to add and remove BPF filters that look at CDBs.  One downside
is that such filtering would likely be enabled by CAP_SYS_RAWIO.
Because of this, tweaking the filter on the fly is still not too easy
because I want to run as unprivileged as possible.  I guess some
privileged helper program can set the filter and send me back the file
descriptor via SCM_RIGHTS.  The filter will be preserved across that, right?

I still believe this is suboptimal in the general case, and that Jan's
customer has a bug.  But hey I would have ended up implementing the
filters anyway sooner or later, so I'd rather avoid further flames and
work on them with someone supporting the idea. :)  Reluctantly

Acked-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-02 10:10 [PATCH] scsi: Silence unnecessary warnings about ioctl to partition Jan Kara
2012-05-02 10:15 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 10:37   ` Jens Axboe
2012-05-02 10:54   ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 11:02     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 11:12       ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 11:24         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 12:05           ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 12:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 19:38           ` Mark Lord
2012-05-03  7:47             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-03 12:40               ` Mark Lord
2012-05-03 12:47                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-03 17:36                   ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04  6:39                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-04 13:06                       ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04 13:08                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-04 13:11                         ` Mark Lord
2012-05-04 13:24                           ` Mark Lord
2012-05-02 13:51   ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 13:59     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 15:10       ` Alan Cox
2012-05-02 15:49         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-05-02 20:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-05-02 19:49       ` Jan Kara
2012-05-02 21:16         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-15  8:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-15  8:46   ` Jan Kara
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-15 10:50 Jan Kara
2012-06-15 10:51 ` Jens Axboe
2012-06-15 13:58   ` Nick Bowler
2012-06-15 14:22     ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-06-15 14:23     ` Jan Kara
2012-06-15 14:31       ` Nick Bowler
2012-06-15 11:00 ` Alan Cox

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