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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: add queue idle timer
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:53:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB3B14E.2040306@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49r4uke0p1.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On 05/16/2012 03:04 PM, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com> writes:
> 
>> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 15:19 -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>>> Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Add an idle timer that is set to some suitable timeout and would be
>>>> added when the queue first goes empty. If nothing has happened during
>>>> the timeout interval, then the queue is suspended.
>>>>
>>>> Queueing a new request could check the state and resume queue if it is
>>>> supended.
>>>>
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>> @@ -1129,6 +1141,13 @@ void __blk_put_request(struct request_queue *q, struct request *req)
>>>>  	if (unlikely(--req->ref_count))
>>>>  		return;
>>>>  
>>>> +	/* PM request is not accounted */
>>>> +	if (!(req->cmd_flags & REQ_PM)) {
>>>> +		if (!(--q->nr_pending))
>>>> +			/* Hard code to 20secs, will move to sysfs */
>>>> +			mod_timer(&q->idle, jiffies + 20*HZ);
>>>> +	}
>>>> +
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure Jens wanted to avoid doing a mod_timer, here, given that
>>> the queue can transition between empty and non-empty fairly rapidly for
>>> dependent I/O.
>>
>> I'll remove this idle timer and use runtime pm core's timer.
> 
> This issues isn't which timer to use, it's when to modify it.  Since the
> queue can cycle between empty and non-empty very quickly, you should try
> to avoid calling mod_timer for every non-empty to empty transition.
> Jens had described one way to do this in the thread you referenced in
> your 0/3 email.

That's exactly right, thanks Jeff.

Lin, you should have more slack timer handling. Look at the blk-timeout
handling of request timeouts for inspiration, and/or the thread that
Jeff also references. Doing a timer add/del for each request put is a no
go.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-15  8:48 [RFC PATCH 0/3] block layer runtime pm Lin Ming
2012-05-15  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] block: add a flag to identify PM request Lin Ming
2012-05-15 14:35   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-15 15:33     ` Lin Ming
2012-05-15 15:37       ` Alan Cox
2012-05-15 15:58         ` Lin Ming
2012-05-15 18:30           ` Alan Stern
2012-05-15 16:03       ` Alan Stern
2012-05-15  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] block: add queue runtime pm callback Lin Ming
2012-05-15 14:37   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-15 15:36     ` Lin Ming
2012-05-15  8:48 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] block: add queue idle timer Lin Ming
2012-05-15 14:39   ` Alan Stern
2012-05-15 15:49     ` Lin Ming
2012-05-15 19:19   ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-16  1:27     ` Lin Ming
2012-05-16 13:04       ` Jeff Moyer
2012-05-16 13:53         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2012-05-16 14:28           ` Alan Stern
2012-05-16 15:40           ` Lin Ming
2012-05-16 15:59             ` Alan Stern
2012-05-16 16:12               ` Lin Ming
2012-05-16 18:29               ` Jens Axboe

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