From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/10] block: introduce storage element management
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:59:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b86ac66-2a56-4168-81c2-d1e445cc5edf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0746196e-d95f-4d5e-ab44-507d7035fd37@suse.de>
On 2026/10/21 11:42, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 10/13/26 2:27 PM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> Recent SCSI (SBC) and ATA (ACS) standards define the storage element
>> depopulation feature. This feature is intended for managing hard-disks
>> heads, either combined read-write heads or pairs of read and write heads,
>> allowing to keep disks with defective heads longer in production by
>> allowing "depopulating" (removing) defective heads.
>>
>> This feature comes in two different flavors:
>> - A destructive version which removes a head and reformats the disk at a
>> lower capacity point, restoaring a fully functional contiguous LBA
>> address space.
>> - A data preserving version restricted to host-managed zoned disks, which
>> marks the zones served by a removed head as offline or read-only.
>>
>> In preparation for using the data-preserving flavor of the depopulation
>> feature in file systems natively supporting zoned block devices, introduce
>> a set of storage element management operations and functions to define
>> generic calls into block device drivers for managing storage elements.
>>
>> The set of operations is defined with struct blk_se_ops and includes three
>> operations:
>> - report_elements: get information on a device storage elements state
>> reported with the new struct blk_se.
>> - remove_element: depopulate a defective storage element
>> - restore_elements: restore depopulated storage elements
>>
>> Each operation is called from the functions
>> bdev_report_storage_elements(), bdev_remove_storage_element() and
>> bdev_restore_storage_elements().
>>
>> Removing a healthy storage element from a device is possible and useful
>> for testing. The storage element restoration operation restore_elements
>> allows repopulating such healthy element. Repopulating defective storage
>> elements is generally not allowed by devices. The remove_element and
>> restore_elements operations are executed under the zone revalidation lock
>> so that they are serialized iand also serialized against user initiated
>> device revalidation, thus allowing to always have a consistent view of the
>> device zone conditions.
>>
>> The device drivers of zoned block devices can indicate support for the
>> storage element depopulation feature by specifying the storage element
>> management operations with the se_ops field of struct
>> block_device_operations.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
>> ---
>> block/blk-zoned.c | 291 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> block/blk.h | 5 +
>> block/genhd.c | 4 +
>> include/linux/blkdev.h | 22 +++
>> include/uapi/linux/blkzoned.h | 62 ++++++++
>> 5 files changed, 383 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/block/blk-zoned.c b/block/blk-zoned.c
>> index acec8a7e648e..252d12254692 100644
>> --- a/block/blk-zoned.c
>> +++ b/block/blk-zoned.c
>> @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@
>> #include <linux/mempool.h>
>> #include <linux/kthread.h>
>> #include <linux/freezer.h>
>> +#include <linux/delay.h>
>>
>> #include <trace/events/block.h>
>>
>> @@ -2721,5 +2722,293 @@ int queue_zone_wplugs_show(void *data, struct seq_file *m)
>>
>> return 0;
>> }
>> -
>> #endif
>> +
>> +static int disk_se_mgmt_in_progress(struct gendisk *disk,
>> + struct blk_se *elements,
>> + bool *in_progress)
>> +{
>> + unsigned int i, nr_se = disk->nr_storage_elements;
>> + int ret;
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Check if we have storage elements being removed or restored.
>> + */
>> + ret = disk->fops->se_ops->report_elements(disk, elements, &nr_se);
>> + if (ret) {
>> + pr_err("Failed to get storage elements\n");
>> + return ret;
>> + }
>> +
>> + for (i = 0; i < nr_se; i++) {
>> + switch (elements[i].status) {
>> + case BLK_SE_STS_REMOVE_IN_PROGRESS:
>> + case BLK_SE_STS_RESTORE_IN_PROGRESS:
>> + *in_progress = true;
>> + return 0;
>> + default:
>> + break;
>> + }
>> + }
>> +
>> + *in_progress = false;
>> +
>> + return 0;
>> +}
>> +
>> +static int disk_check_remove_error(struct gendisk *disk,
>> + struct blk_se *elements,
>> + unsigned int element_id)
>> +{
>> + unsigned int i;
>> +
>> + for (i = 0; i < disk->nr_storage_elements; i++) {
>> + if (elements[i].id == element_id &&
>> + elements[i].status == BLK_SE_STS_REMOVE_ERROR)
>> + return -EIO;
>> + }
>> +
>> + return 0;
>> +}
>> +
>> +static int disk_wait_for_se_mgmt_completion(struct gendisk *disk,
>> + struct blk_se *elements,
>> + unsigned int element_id)
>> +{
>> + bool in_progress;
>> + int ret;
>> +
>> + /*
>> + * Poll the storage elements heath state to detect the end of a
>> + * removal or restoration operation. Since we do not know how long the
>> + * operation may take, we cannot have a timeout on this loop. So check
>> + * for fatal signals so that the user can terminate this retry loop if
>> + * the device misbehaves.
>> + */
>> + while (1) {
>> + ret = disk_se_mgmt_in_progress(disk, elements, &in_progress);
>> + if (ret || !in_progress)
>> + break;
>> +
>> + if (fatal_signal_pending(current)) {
>> + ret = -EINTR;
>> + break;
>> + }
>> +
>> + /* Not done yet: wait and retry. */
>> + msleep(1000);
>> + }
>> +
> I always feel a bit uncomfortable having to poll without a dedicated
> end time.
> Care to add a timeout here to avoid an infinite wait?
That's why the loop is interruptible with a signal... I fear that a timeout
could cause problem for "slow" drives, causing failures when everything is fine.
I could add a timeout of several minutes, but then who says that all drives can
depop a head in less than that timeout?
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-21 9:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-13 12:27 [PATCH v6 00/10] Add support for storage element depopulation Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 01/10] block: introduce disk_zone_is_offline() Damien Le Moal
2026-10-21 9:36 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 02/10] block: refactor blk_revalidate_disk_zones() Damien Le Moal
2026-10-21 9:41 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 03/10] block: introduce storage element management Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 14:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-10-21 9:42 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-21 9:59 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2026-10-21 10:49 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 04/10] block: add storage element management ioctls Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 14:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-10-21 9:45 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-21 9:48 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 05/10] zloop: avoid potential wp_lock deadlocks Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-10-21 9:46 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 06/10] zloop: add storage element emulation Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-10-21 9:47 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 07/10] zloop: add degrade_element control command Damien Le Moal
2026-10-21 9:51 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 08/10] scsi: sd: fail read commands to offline zones early Damien Le Moal
2026-10-21 9:51 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 09/10] scsi: sd_zbc: always revalidate zones for disks supporting head depopulation Damien Le Moal
2026-10-13 14:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-10-21 9:52 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-13 12:27 ` [PATCH v6 10/10] scsi: sd_zbc: define storage element management operations Damien Le Moal
2026-10-21 9:53 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-10-14 3:49 ` [PATCH v6 00/10] Add support for storage element depopulation Martin K. Petersen
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