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From: "Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)" <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au>
Cc: tanxiaofei <tanxiaofei@huawei.com>,
	"jejb@linux.ibm.com" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxarm@openeuler.org" <linuxarm@openeuler.org>,
	"linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org" <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [Linuxarm]  Re: [PATCH for-next 00/32] spin lock usage optimization for SCSI drivers
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 00:37:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ee3b4fa65ee4773aa520c192b262dbb@hisilicon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <968b5f7a-5375-f0c6-c8c4-26ea6dabd9d1@telegraphics.com.au>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Finn Thain [mailto:fthain@telegraphics.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) <song.bao.hua@hisilicon.com>
> Cc: tanxiaofei <tanxiaofei@huawei.com>; jejb@linux.ibm.com;
> martin.petersen@oracle.com; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org;
> linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org; linuxarm@openeuler.org;
> linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: RE: [Linuxarm] Re: [PATCH for-next 00/32] spin lock usage optimization
> for SCSI drivers
> 
> On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:
> 
> > > On Tue, 9 Feb 2021, Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On Sun, 7 Feb 2021, Xiaofei Tan wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Replace spin_lock_irqsave with spin_lock in hard IRQ of SCSI
> > > > > > drivers. There are no function changes, but may speed up if
> > > > > > interrupt happen too often.
> > > > >
> > > > > This change doesn't necessarily work on platforms that support
> > > > > nested interrupts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Were you able to measure any benefit from this change on some
> > > > > other platform?
> > > >
> > > > I think the code disabling irq in hardIRQ is simply wrong. Since
> > > > this commit
> > > >
> > > >
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/
> ?id=e58aa3d2d0cc
> > > > genirq: Run irq handlers with interrupts disabled
> > > >
> > > > interrupt handlers are definitely running in a irq-disabled context
> > > > unless irq handlers enable them explicitly in the handler to permit
> > > > other interrupts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Repeating the same claim does not somehow make it true.
> >
> > Sorry for I didn't realize xiaofei had replied.
> >
> 
> I was referring to the claim in patch 00/32, i.e. that interrupt handlers
> only run when irqs are disabled.
> 
> > > If you put your claim to the test, you'll see that that interrupts are
> > > not disabled on m68k when interrupt handlers execute.
> >
> > Sounds like an implementation issue of m68k since IRQF_DISABLED has been
> > totally removed.
> >
> 
> It's true that IRQF_DISABLED could be used to avoid the need for irq locks
> in interrupt handlers. So, if you want to remove irq locks from interrupt
> handlers, today you can't use IRQF_DISABLED to help you. So what?
> 
> > >
> > > The Interrupt Priority Level (IPL) can prevent any given irq handler
> > > from being re-entered, but an irq with a higher priority level may be
> > > handled during execution of a lower priority irq handler.
> > >
> >
> > We used to have IRQF_DISABLED to support so-called "fast interrupt" to
> > avoid this.
> >
> > But the concept has been totally removed. That is interesting if m68k
> > still has this issue.
> >
> 
> Prioritized interrupts are beneficial. Why would you want to avoid them?
> 

I doubt this is true as it has been already thought as unnecessary
in Linux:
https://lwn.net/Articles/380931/

> Moreover, there's no reason to believe that m68k is the only platform that
> supports nested interrupts.

I doubt that is true as genirq is running understand the consumption
that hardIRQ is running in irq-disabled context:
"We run all handlers with interrupts disabled and expect them not to
enable them. Warn when we catch one who does."
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=b738a50a

If it is, m68k is against the assumption of genirq.

> 
> > > sonic_interrupt() uses an irq lock within an interrupt handler to
> > > avoid issues relating to this. This kind of locking may be needed in
> > > the drivers you are trying to patch. Or it might not. Apparently,
> > > no-one has looked.
> >

Thanks
Barry

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-10  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-07 11:36 [PATCH for-next 00/32] spin lock usage optimization for SCSI drivers Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 01/32] scsi: 53c700: Replace spin_lock_irqsave with spin_lock in hard IRQ Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 02/32] scsi: ipr: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 03/32] scsi: lpfc: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 04/32] scsi: qla4xxx: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 05/32] scsi: BusLogic: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 06/32] scsi: a100u2w: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 07/32] scsi: a2091: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 08/32] scsi: a3000: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 09/32] scsi: aha1740: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 10/32] scsi: bfa: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 11/32] scsi: esp_scsi: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 12/32] scsi: gvp11: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 13/32] scsi: hptiop: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 14/32] scsi: ibmvscsi: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 15/32] scsi: initio: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 16/32] scsi: megaraid: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 17/32] scsi: mac53c94: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 18/32] scsi: mesh: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 19/32] scsi: mvumi: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 20/32] scsi: myrb: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 21/32] scsi: myrs: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 22/32] scsi: ncr53c8xx: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 23/32] scsi: nsp32: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 24/32] scsi: pmcraid: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 25/32] scsi: pcmcia: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 26/32] scsi: qlogicfas408: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 27/32] scsi: qlogicpti: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:36 ` [PATCH for-next 28/32] scsi: sgiwd93: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:37 ` [PATCH for-next 29/32] scsi: stex: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:37 ` [PATCH for-next 30/32] scsi: vmw_pvscsi: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:37 ` [PATCH for-next 31/32] scsi: wd719x: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-07 11:37 ` [PATCH for-next 32/32] scsi: advansys: " Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-08  7:57 ` [PATCH for-next 00/32] spin lock usage optimization for SCSI drivers Finn Thain
2021-02-09  1:48   ` [Linuxarm] " Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-09  5:06     ` Finn Thain
2021-02-09  5:33       ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-10  0:28         ` Finn Thain
2021-02-10  0:37           ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song) [this message]
2021-02-10  4:14             ` Finn Thain
2021-02-09  5:46       ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-10  4:16         ` Finn Thain
2021-02-10  5:14           ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-10 21:06             ` Finn Thain
2021-02-10 21:28               ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-10 22:34                 ` Finn Thain
2021-02-10 23:49                   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-11  1:11                     ` Finn Thain
2021-02-11  3:02                       ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-11 23:58                         ` Finn Thain
2021-02-12  0:21                           ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-18  7:12       ` Xiaofei Tan
2021-02-20  5:18         ` Finn Thain
2021-02-22  2:04           ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-23  5:25             ` Finn Thain
2021-02-23  5:47               ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-24  5:20                 ` Finn Thain
2021-02-24 10:50                   ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-02-25  7:07                     ` Finn Thain
2021-02-09  2:00   ` tanxiaofei
2021-02-09  5:11     ` Finn Thain
2021-02-24  9:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-02-25  2:37   ` [Linuxarm] " Xiaofei Tan

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