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From: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ping^3] Re: [PATCH] sg_io: allow UNMAP and WRITE SAME without CAP_SYS_RAWIO
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 07:31:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <504889A1.2090507@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50484345.8040508@redhat.com>

On 09/06/2012 02:31 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 05/09/2012 22:18, Ric Wheeler ha scritto:
>> Hi Paolo,
>>
>> Both of these commands are destructive. WRITE_SAME (if done without the
>> discard bits set) can also take a very long time to be destructive and
>> tie up the storage.
> FORMAT_UNIT has the same characteristics and yet it is allowed (btw, I
> don't think WRITE SAME slowness is limited to the case where a real
> write is requested; discarding can be just as slow).
>
> Also, the two new commands are anyway restricted to programs that have
> write access to the disk.  If you have read-only access, you won't be
> able to issue any destructive command (there is one exception, START
> STOP UNIT is allowed even with read-only capability and is somewhat
> destructive).
>
> Honestly, the only reason why these two commands weren't included, is
> that the current whitelist is heavily tailored towards CD/DVD burning.

Hi Paolo,

I assume that FORMAT_UNIT is for CD/DVD needs - not sure what a S-ATA disk would 
do with that. If it is destructive, we should probably think about how to make 
it more secure and see how many applications we would break.

>
>> I think that restricting them to CAP_SYS_RAWIO seems reasonable - better
>> to vet and give the appropriate apps the needed capability than to
>> widely open up the safety check?
> CAP_SYS_RAWIO is so wide in its scope, that anything that requires it is
> insecure.
>
> Paolo

I don't see allowing anyone who can open the device to zero the data as better 
though :)

Ric

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-20 16:30 [PATCH] sg_io: allow UNMAP and WRITE SAME without CAP_SYS_RAWIO Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-01 15:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-28 11:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-05 14:41     ` [Ping^3] " Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-05 20:18       ` Ric Wheeler
2012-09-06  6:31         ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 11:31           ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2012-09-06 11:49             ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 12:08               ` Ric Wheeler
2012-09-06 12:36                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-06 14:20                   ` Lukáš Czerner
2012-09-11 16:59 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 17:56   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 18:29     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 18:54       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 19:13         ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 19:24           ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 20:01             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 21:50               ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 22:02                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 22:10                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-11 22:13                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-12  8:05     ` James Bottomley
2012-09-12  8:18       ` Paolo Bonzini

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