From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com>,
Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Race condition between "read CFQ stats" and "block device shutdown"
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:18:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5244423A.2050107@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130926135443.GC2480@htj.dyndns.org>
On 09/26/2013 03:54 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, (cc'ing linux-scsi)
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 01:37:51PM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:45:33AM -0700, Anatol Pomozov wrote:
>>>> I am not an expect in block code, so I have a few questions here:
>>>>
>>>> - are we sure that this operation is atomic? What if blkg->q becomes
>>>> dead right after we checked it, and blkg->q->queue_lock got invalid so
>>>> we have the same crash as before?
>>>
>>> request_queue lock switching is something inherently broken in block
>>> layer. It's unsalvageable.
>>
>> Fully agree. The problem that request_queue->queue_lock is a shared
>> resource that concurrently modified/accessed. In this case (when one
>> thread changes, another thread access it) we need synchronization to
>> prevent race conditions. So we need a spin_lock to access queue_lock
>> spin_lock, otherwise we have a crash like one above...
>>
>>> Maybe we can drop lock switching once blk-mq is fully merged.
>>
>> Could you please provide more information about it? What is the timeline?
>
> I have no idea. Hopefully, not too far out. Jens would have better
> idea.
>
>> If there is an easy way to fix the race condition I would like to
>> help. Please give me some pointer what direction I should move.
>
> The first step would be identifying who are actually making use of
> lock switching, why and how much difference it would make for them to
> not do that.
>
Typically, the lock is being used by the block drivers to
synchronize access between some internal data structures and the
request queue itself. You don't actually _need_ to do it that way,
but removing the lock switching would involve quite some redesign of
these drivers.
Give that most of the are rather oldish I really wouldn't want to
touch them.
However, none of the modern devices should be using this lock
switching, so I would just ignore it.
EG SCSI most definitely doesn't use it.
Cheers,
Hannes
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2013-09-26 13:54 ` Race condition between "read CFQ stats" and "block device shutdown" Tejun Heo
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