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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: emilne@redhat.com, Lee Duncan <lduncan@suse.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 1/1] SCSI: hosts: update to use ida_simple for host_no management
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 16:29:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <566EE055.9050708@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1450105632.4091.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On 12/14/2015 04:07 PM, Ewan Milne wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-12-13 at 11:16 -0800, Lee Duncan wrote:
>> On 12/11/2015 07:31 AM, Ewan Milne wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 13:48 -0800, Lee Duncan wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2015 03:20 PM, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Lee" == Lee Duncan <lduncan@suse.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee> Martin: I will be glad to update the patch, creating a modprobe
>>>>> Lee> parameter as suggested, if you find this acceptable.
>>>>>
>>>>> For development use a module parameter would be fine. But I am concerned
>>>>> about our support folks that rely on the incrementing host number when
>>>>> analyzing customer log files.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ewan: How do you folks feel about this change?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ewan?
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I think having host numbers that increase essentially
>>> without limit (I think I've seen this with iSCSI sessions) are a
>>> problem, the numbers start to lose meaning for people when they
>>> are not easily recognizable.  Yes, it can help when you're analyzing
>>> a log file, but it seems to me that you would want to track the
>>> host state throughout anyway, so you could just follow the number
>>> as it changes.
>>>
>>> If we change the behavior, we have to change documentation, and
>>> our support people will get calls.  But that's not a reason not
>>> to do it.
>>>
>>> -Ewan
>>>
>>
>> Ewan:
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. I agree with you, which is why I generated
>> this patch.
>>
>> If we *do* make this change, do you think it would be useful to have a
>> module option to revert to the old numbering behavior? I actually think
>> it would be more confusing to support two behaviors than it would be to
>> bite the bullet (so to speak) and make the change.
>>
>
> I'm not opposed to having the module option if others (Martin?) feel
> they need it, but generally I think it's better to keep things as simple
> as possible.  So, unless there are strong objections, I would say no.
>
Agreeing with Ewan here.

Martin, I guess it's up to you to tell us whether you absolutely 
need a module parameter ...

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-14 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-07 23:51 [PATCHv4 0/1] Update SCSI hosts to use ida for host number mgmt Lee Duncan
2015-10-07 23:51 ` [PATCHv4 1/1] SCSI: hosts: update to use ida_simple for host_no management Lee Duncan
2015-10-14 12:22   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2015-10-14 13:55   ` James Bottomley
2015-10-14 18:34     ` Lee Duncan
2015-10-14 18:53       ` James Bottomley
2015-10-14 21:21         ` Lee Duncan
2015-10-15  5:52         ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-10-16 20:03         ` Lee Duncan
2015-10-16 20:14           ` Greg KH
2015-11-12 16:31         ` Lee Duncan
2015-11-13 21:54           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-11-16 12:10             ` Hannes Reinecke
2015-11-16 21:47               ` Lee Duncan
2015-11-17 23:20                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-12-10 21:48                   ` Lee Duncan
2015-12-11 15:31                     ` Ewan Milne
2015-12-13 19:16                       ` Lee Duncan
2015-12-14 15:07                         ` Ewan Milne
2015-12-14 15:29                           ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
2015-12-15  1:55                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-12-17 19:24                               ` Lee Duncan
2016-01-04 19:45                                 ` Lee Duncan
2016-01-05 23:53                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-01-20 19:49                                     ` Lee Duncan

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