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From: Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Ewan Milne <emilne@redhat.com>,
	James Bottomley <james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 20/23] scsi: Add 'access_state' attribute
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 20:45:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56CA9252.8030007@sandisk.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56C9750B.9010200@suse.de>

On 02/21/16 00:27, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 02/20/2016 04:16 PM, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 02/20/16 00:03, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>> Also when using your suggestion the 'access_state' attribute will only
>>> be created _after_ the 'ADD' uevent, making it impossible to use it from
>>> udev events.
>>
>> Can you give an example in which it would be useful to read the ALUA
>> state from a udev handler ? I'm not sure such an example exists.
>>
> When evaluating the 'access_state' from an uevent we can avoid sending
> I/O if the path is unavailable; eg if the path is in 'transitioning' I/O
> will be queued until that path becomes available again.
> Which means that the uevent will be delayed during udev processing, so
> that the event will never be read by multipathing (as it's being invoked
> only after udev event processing has finished).
> And in extreme cases (like OnTap takeover/giveback) it will even drop
> the event completely due to a timeout.

Hello Hannes,

Thanks for the feedback.

Please split the access_state attribute in two sysfs attributes - one 
for the ALUA state and one for the "preferred" state. This will make it 
easier for shell scripts to process these sysfs attributes.

I agree with using the 'is_visible' callback. But since using that 
callback will cause the ALUA sysfs attributes to become only visible 
after the ALUA handler has been attached I don't see why not to move the 
implementation of the ALUA sysfs attributes into the ALUA device handler 
source file.

BTW, since the ALUA state can change at any time after the access_state 
sysfs attribute has been read and before I/O is submitted my preference 
is to avoid triggering any SCSI commands from a udev rule that depend on 
the ALUA state.

Bart.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-22  4:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-19  8:16 [PATCHv8 00/23] ALUA device handler update, part II Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:16 ` [PATCHv8 01/23] scsi_dh_alua: Pass buffer as function argument Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:16 ` [PATCHv8 02/23] scsi_dh_alua: separate out alua_stpg() Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 03/23] scsi_dh_alua: Make stpg synchronous Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 04/23] scsi_dh_alua: call alua_rtpg() if stpg fails Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 05/23] scsi_dh_alua: switch to scsi_execute_req_flags() Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 06/23] scsi_dh_alua: allocate RTPG buffer separately Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 07/23] scsi_dh_alua: Use separate alua_port_group structure Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 08/23] scsi_dh_alua: use unique device id Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 09/23] scsi_dh_alua: simplify alua_initialize() Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 10/23] revert commit a8e5a2d593cb ("[SCSI] scsi_dh_alua: ALUA handler attach should succeed while TPG is transitioning") Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 11/23] scsi_dh_alua: move optimize_stpg evaluation Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 12/23] scsi_dh_alua: remove 'rel_port' from alua_dh_data structure Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 13/23] scsi_dh_alua: Use workqueue for RTPG Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 14/23] scsi_dh_alua: Allow workqueue to run synchronously Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 15/23] scsi_dh_alua: Add new blacklist flag 'BLIST_SYNC_ALUA' Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 16/23] scsi_dh_alua: Recheck state on unit attention Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 17/23] scsi_dh_alua: update all port states Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 18/23] scsi_dh_alua: Send TEST UNIT READY to poll for transitioning Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 19/23] scsi_dh: add 'rescan' callback Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 20/23] scsi: Add 'access_state' attribute Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19 19:10   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-20  8:03     ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-20 15:16       ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-21  8:27         ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-22  3:05           ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-02-22  4:45           ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2016-02-22  6:59             ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-22 15:34               ` Bart Van Assche
2016-02-23 10:27                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-23 14:12                   ` Ewan Milne
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 21/23] scsi_dh_alua: use common definitions for ALUA state Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 22/23] scsi_dh_alua: update 'access_state' field Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-19  8:17 ` [PATCHv8 23/23] scsi_dh_alua: Update version to 2.0 Hannes Reinecke
2016-02-24  1:50 ` [PATCHv8 00/23] ALUA device handler update, part II Martin K. Petersen

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