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From: Elias Oltmanns <eo@nebensachen.de>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SCSI: Fix some locking issues
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:39:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874p7621w5.fsf@denkblock.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1215098563.3309.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> (James Bottomley's message of "Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:22:43 -0500")

James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 09:12 +0200, Elias Oltmanns wrote:
>> Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx> wrote:
[...]
>> > The assumption we make (and it is believed to be true on all SMP systems)
>> > is that a write to a naturally aligned memory location that is sized <=
>> > sizeof(long) is atomic.  That is, a reader will get either the previous
>> > value or the subsequent value, not a mixture.  The RCU code relies
>> > heavily on this assumption.
>> 
>> Does that mean that where ever I have
>> 
>> spin_lock_irqsave(some_lock, flags);
>> var = some_val;
>> spin_unlock_irqrestore(some_lock, flags);
>> 
>> I could just as well discard the locking provided that
>> sizeof(var) <= sizeof(long)
>> because the assignment of some_val to var will be atomic anyway?
>
> I think you're still confused about the difference between integral
> observation of values and serialisation.
>
> Assignment is always integral.  In your example above anything observing
> the variable always sees either the previous value or the one you set it
> to, nothing else.  So, if all you're doing is setting a flag and
> clearing it (as in setting it to an integral value, not setting it via a
> bit operation) and checking it, no locking is needed.  It's when you
> start doing operations on variables that require serialisation, or the
> variables themselves are absolute indicators of events that need
> serialisation that you start having to introduce locking.

Right. Thank you very much for the clarification.

Regards,

Elias

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-03 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-29 11:38 [PATCH] SCSI: Fix some locking issues Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-01 21:37 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-02  1:55   ` James Bottomley
2008-07-02  7:08     ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-02 11:50       ` Jens Axboe
2008-07-02 14:49         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-02 18:45           ` Jens Axboe
2008-07-02 20:18             ` James Bottomley
2008-07-03  7:53               ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-03 10:38                 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-03 11:24                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-07-03 16:31                     ` James Bottomley
2008-07-03 17:54                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-07-03 19:47                       ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-03 21:33                         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-02 14:46       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-02 15:59         ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-02 16:23           ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-07-03  7:12             ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-03 15:22               ` James Bottomley
2008-07-03 19:39                 ` Elias Oltmanns [this message]
2008-07-03 15:47               ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-07-02 16:32           ` James Bottomley
2008-07-03  7:25             ` Elias Oltmanns

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