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From: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
To: Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com>
Cc: Matti.Moell@opensynergy.com, arnd@linaro.org, bing.zhu@intel.com,
	hmo@opensynergy.com, ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org,
	joakim.bech@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, maxim.uvarov@linaro.org,
	ruchika.gupta@linaro.org, tomas.winkler@intel.com,
	yang.huang@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH  0/5] RPMB internal and user-space API + WIP virtio-rpmb frontend
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 14:29:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2ev6pkw.fsf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210309132725.638205-1-avri.altman@wdc.com>


Avri Altman <avri.altman@wdc.com> writes:

> The mmc driver has some hooks to support rpmb access, but access is
> mainly facilitated from user space, e.g. mmc-utils.
>
> The ufs driver has no concept of rpmb access - it is facilitated via
> user space, e.g. ufs-utils and similar.
>
> Both for ufs and mmc, rpmb access is defined in their applicable jedec
> specs. This is the case for few years now - AFAIK No new rpmb-related
> stuff is expected to be introduced in the near future.
>
> What problems, as far as mmc and ufs, are you trying to solve by this
> new subsystem?

Well in my case the addition of virtio-rpmb. As yet another RPMB device
which only supports RPMB transactions and isn't part of a wider block
device. The API dissonance comes into play when looking to implement it
as part of wider block device stacks and then having to do things like
fake 0 length eMMC devices with just an RPMB partition to use existing
tools.

I guess that was the original attraction of having a common kernel
subsystem to interact with RPMB functionality regardless of the
underlying HW. However from the other comments it seems the preference
is just to leave it to user-space and domain specific tools for each
device type.

>
> Thanks,
> Avri


-- 
Alex Bennée

  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-10 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-03 13:54 [RFC PATCH 0/5] RPMB internal and user-space API + WIP virtio-rpmb frontend Alex Bennée
2021-03-03 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] rpmb: add Replay Protected Memory Block (RPMB) subsystem Alex Bennée
2021-03-03 15:28   ` Ulf Hansson
2021-03-03 19:37     ` Alex Bennée
2021-03-04 20:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-05  7:51     ` Joakim Bech
2021-03-05  8:44       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-08 16:20         ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 17:12           ` David Howells
2021-03-10  4:54             ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-10  9:33             ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 21:09           ` Hector Martin
2021-03-10  5:14             ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-10  8:47               ` Hector Martin
2021-03-10  9:48                 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-10 13:52                   ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11  0:36                     ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-11  9:22                       ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11 14:06                         ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-11 20:02                           ` Hector Martin
2021-03-12  9:22                             ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-10 10:29                 ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-11  0:49                   ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-11  1:07                     ` James Bottomley
2021-03-11  9:45                     ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11 14:31                       ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-11 20:29                         ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11 20:57                           ` Alex Bennée
2021-03-12 10:00                             ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-12  9:47                           ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-12 11:59                           ` Sumit Garg
2021-03-12 12:08                             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-03-03 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] char: rpmb: provide a user space interface Alex Bennée
2021-03-04  7:01   ` Winkler, Tomas
2021-03-04 10:19     ` Alex Bennée
2021-03-04 10:34       ` Winkler, Tomas
2021-03-04 17:52         ` Alex Bennée
2021-03-04 19:54           ` Winkler, Tomas
2021-03-04 21:43             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-05  6:31               ` Winkler, Tomas
2021-03-04 21:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-03 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] tools rpmb: add RPBM access tool Alex Bennée
2021-03-03 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] rpmb: create virtio rpmb frontend driver [WIP] Alex Bennée
2021-03-03 13:55 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] tools/rpmb: simple test sequence Alex Bennée
2021-03-09 13:27 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] RPMB internal and user-space API + WIP virtio-rpmb frontend Avri Altman
2021-03-10 14:29   ` Alex Bennée [this message]
2021-03-11 13:45     ` Avri Altman

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