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From: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>
To: Friedrich Weber <f.weber@proxmox.com>,
	Mira Limbeck <m.limbeck@proxmox.com>,
	Niklas Cassel <nks@flawful.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Kashyap Desai <kashyap.desai@broadcom.com>,
	Sumit Saxena <sumit.saxena@broadcom.com>,
	Shivasharan S <shivasharan.srikanteshwara@broadcom.com>,
	Chandrakanth patil <chandrakanth.patil@broadcom.com>,
	Sathya Prakash Veerichetty <sathya.prakash@broadcom.com>,
	Sreekanth Reddy <sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com>,
	megaraidlinux.pdl@broadcom.com, mpi3mr-linuxdrv.pdl@broadcom.com
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Niklas Cassel <niklas.cassel@wdc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 08/19] scsi: detect support for command duration limits
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 19:32:51 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e85be51-a44e-42a4-bc48-74d6375c70fd@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <72bf0fd7-f646-46f7-a2aa-ef815dbfa4e2@proxmox.com>

On 7/10/25 5:41 PM, Friedrich Weber wrote:
> Hi Damien,
> 
> On 09/06/2025 14:24, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> On 6/3/25 20:28, Friedrich Weber wrote:
>>>>> They provided controller information via `sas3ircu` and `storcli`:
>>>>>
>>>>> sas3ircu:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Controller type                         : SAS3008
>>>>>   BIOS version                            : 8.37.00.00
>>>>>   Firmware version                        : 16.00.16.00
>>>>
>>>> Is this the latest available FW for this HBA ? (see below)
>>>
>>> It seems 16.00.16.00 is even newer than the latest version available on
>>> the Broadcom website, which is a bit strange -- I only found [1] there
>>> which has an older 16.00.14.00 (3008_FW_PH16.00.14.00.rar).
>>
>> So this is an old/now EOL 9300 series HBA, right ? Or is this a 3008 controller
>> chip as part of the server motherboard (e.g. a supermicro HBA ?)
>> Looking at the Broadcom support page for legacy products, the latest FW version
>> seems to be 16.00.10.00.
> 
> According to the user it is not part of a server motherboard but a
> "proper" PCIe Broadcom SAS 9300-8i HBA.

This is an old HBA EOL HBA that has no FW update. So we will need to quirk it
to avoid the CDL probing with MAINTENANCE IN command as that seems to be the issue.

> Yeah, I agree checking the latest firmware makes sense for these,
> unfortunately they are currently in use so the user cannot test with them.
> 
> But we might be able to run some tests with a Supermicro
> AOC-S3816L-L16iT (so Broadcom SAS3816?) soon where the hotplug issue
> apparently also happens. We'll make sure to update to the latest
> firmware and I'll do my best to collect relevant logs. If you can think
> of anything specific we should collect, feel free to let me know.

See above. With such old HBA, there is no FW update.

I think we can safely ignore CDL support for the mpt3sas driver since the HBAs
controlled with this driver (9300, 9400 and 9500) do not support CDL at all.

Will try to cook something.

> Thanks for looking into this, it is definitely a strange problem.
> 
> Considering these drives don't support CDL anyway: Do you think it would
> be possible to provide an "escape hatch" to disable only the CDL checks
> (a module parameter?) so hotplug can work for the user again for their
> device? If I see correctly, disabling just the CDL checks is not
> possible (without recompiling the kernel) -- scsi_mod.dev_flags can be
> used to disable RSOC, but I guess that has other unintended consequences
> too, so a more "targeted" escape hatch would be nice.

No need to quirk the drives since the HBAs themselves do not support CDL at
all. Let me see how to do it. Basically, we need to prevent the call to
scsi_cdl_check() if the scsi host is from mpt3sas...


-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research

  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-10 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11  1:13 [PATCH v7 00/19] Add Command Duration Limits support Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 01/19] ioprio: cleanup interface definition Niklas Cassel
2023-06-07 13:10   ` [PATCH v7 1/19] " Alexander Gordeev
2023-06-07 14:52     ` Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 02/19] block: introduce ioprio hints Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 03/19] block: introduce BLK_STS_DURATION_LIMIT Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 04/19] scsi: core: allow libata to complete successful commands via EH Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 05/19] scsi: rename and move get_scsi_ml_byte() Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 06/19] scsi: support retrieving sub-pages of mode pages Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 07/19] scsi: support service action in scsi_report_opcode() Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 08/19] scsi: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2025-04-30 12:13   ` Friedrich Weber
2025-04-30 13:39     ` Damien Le Moal
2025-05-08  9:36       ` Mira Limbeck
2025-05-08 23:45         ` Damien Le Moal
2025-06-03 11:28           ` Friedrich Weber
2025-06-09 12:24             ` Damien Le Moal
2025-07-10  8:41               ` Friedrich Weber
2025-07-10 10:32                 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2025-07-30 10:39                   ` Friedrich Weber
2025-07-14  2:48                 ` Damien Le Moal
2025-07-22  9:32                   ` Friedrich Weber
2025-07-22  9:37                     ` Damien Le Moal
2025-07-31 11:48                       ` Diangang Li
2025-07-31 12:06                         ` Friedrich Weber
2025-07-31 23:21                         ` Damien Le Moal
2025-07-31 11:38     ` Diangang Li
2025-07-31 11:44       ` Friedrich Weber
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 09/19] scsi: allow enabling and disabling " Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 10/19] scsi: sd: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 11/19] scsi: sd: handle read/write CDL timeout failures Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 12/19] ata: libata-scsi: remove unnecessary !cmd checks Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 13/19] ata: libata: change ata_eh_request_sense() to not set CHECK_CONDITION Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 14/19] ata: libata: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 15/19] ata: libata-scsi: handle CDL bits in ata_scsiop_maint_in() Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 16/19] ata: libata-scsi: add support for CDL pages mode sense Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 17/19] ata: libata: add ATA feature control sub-page translation Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 18/19] ata: libata: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  1:13 ` [PATCH v7 19/19] ata: libata: handle completion of CDL commands using policy 0xD Niklas Cassel
2023-05-11  4:22 ` [PATCH v7 00/19] Add Command Duration Limits support Douglas Gilbert
2023-05-11 12:34   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-05-15 22:58 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-05-22 21:41 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-05-22 23:12   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-05-23  9:56   ` Niklas Cassel
2023-05-23 10:08     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-05-23 10:35       ` Niklas Cassel
2023-05-23 10:53         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-06-01  0:43 ` Martin K. Petersen

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