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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] block: fix q->max_segment_size checking in blk_recalc_rq_segments about VMERGE
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:20:59 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0807151210400.31336@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1216138072.3312.54.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, James Bottomley wrote:

> On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 11:58 -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
>> You are mixing two ideas here:
>>
>> (1) virtual merging --- IOMMU maps discontinuous segments into continuous
>> area that it presents to the device.
>>
>> (2) virtual merge accounting --- block layer tries to guess how many
>> segments will be created by (1) and merges small requests into big ones.
>> The resulting requests are as big that they can't be processed by the
>> device if (1) weren't in effect.
>
> No ... I'm not ... the virtual merge implementation requires the block
> layer to get this accounting right, otherwise the iommu code can end up
> doing the wrong thing.

The virtual merge (1) can work even without accounting (2). IOMMU can 
always create less sg entries then the block layer expects.

> You're proposing to eliminate the difference between max_phys_segments
> and max_hw_segments without actually removing them.

Yes. Only for alpha and pa-risc, there is difference between these values. 
And both of these architectures are being discontinued.

>> That's why I'm proposing to remove virtual merge accounting (2), but leave
>> virtual merging (1) itself. The accounting doesn't reduce number of sg
>> slots.
>
> Yes, but it's gains very little ... architectures that don't want it can
> already turn it off, and it's useful for those, like parisc, who do.
>
> James

It increases maintainability of the code, reduces bloat and bugs.

Mikulas

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-15 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 10:44 [PATCH] block: fix q->max_segment_size checking in blk_recalc_rq_segments about VMERGE FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-15 13:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-15 14:20   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-15 14:37     ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-15 15:30       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-15 15:46         ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-16  0:34           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-16 18:02             ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-17  4:14               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-17 11:50                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-17 13:18                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-17 13:27                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-07-17 13:56                       ` James Bottomley
2008-07-19  7:28                     ` David Miller
2008-07-20  1:45                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-20  2:17                         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-20  4:07                           ` David Miller
2008-07-20 14:52                             ` James Bottomley
2008-07-20 17:23                               ` David Miller
2008-07-20 17:33                                 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-24 15:07                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-24 15:28                                     ` James Bottomley
2008-07-24 16:34                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-24 16:52                                         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-24 21:49                                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-24 21:53                                             ` David Miller
2008-07-25  3:47                                               ` James Bottomley
2008-07-25  5:21                                                 ` David Miller
2008-07-25  2:26                                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2008-07-25  2:40                                             ` [PATCH] block: fix q->max_segment_size checking in blk_recalc_rq_segments John David Anglin
2008-07-20  5:54                         ` [PATCH] block: fix q->max_segment_size checking in blk_recalc_rq_segments about VMERGE David Miller
2008-07-15 14:50     ` James Bottomley
2008-07-15 15:24       ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-15 15:41         ` James Bottomley
2008-07-15 15:58           ` Mikulas Patocka
2008-07-15 16:07             ` James Bottomley
2008-07-15 16:20               ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2008-07-15 16:36                 ` James Bottomley
2008-07-15 21:50                   ` Mikulas Patocka

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