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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Xiaoguang Wang <xiaoguang.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Guixin Liu <kanie@linux.alibaba.com>,
	bostroesser@gmail.com, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xlpang@linux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] uio: add ioctl to uio
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 13:30:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yg4/2rZsCmOazYgb@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <362edb61-b8ad-495e-2346-8020355c0938@linux.alibaba.com>

On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 08:15:29PM +0800, Xiaoguang Wang wrote:
> hi,
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:29:21AM +0800, Guixin Liu wrote:
> > > In TCMU, if backstore holds its own userspace buffer, for read cmd, the
> > > data needs to be copied from userspace buffer to tcmu data area first,
> > > and then needs to be copied from tcmu data area to scsi sgl pages again.
> > > 
> > > To solve this problem, add ioctl to uio to let userspace backstore can
> > > copy data between scsi sgl pages and its own buffer directly.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Xiaoguang Wang<xiaoguang.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Guixin Liu<kanie@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > ---
> > >   drivers/uio/uio.c          | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   include/linux/uio_driver.h |  1 +
> > No, sorry, thie uio driver will not be adding ioctls to them.  If you
> > need an ioctl, then you should not be using the UIO api but rather use a
> > custom character driver instead.
> 
> I found that early in 2015, there was developer trying to add ioctl interface
> to uio framework:https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20151005080149.GB1747@kroah.com/

See, I rejected your ioctl for the very same reasons :)

It's good that I was consistent...

> Some of my customers use tcm_loop & tcmu to simulate block devices, it's tcmu
> driver that uses uio framework. There maybe more extra work if we tries to replace
> uio with a new character driver.

Why is tcmu using uio at all?

> Currently tcmu has performance bottleneck, Guixin's patch uses ioctl interface
> to bypass tcmu data area. I also have implemented a tcmu zero-copy feature that
> allows tcmu driver map io request sgl's pages to user space, which uses ioctl
> to do this mapping work, similar to network getsockopt(TCP_ZEROCOPY_RECEIVE).
> 
> I also understand your concerns about ioctl interface. Except that replacing
> uio with a new character driver in tcmu, are there any less complicated methods
> to complete our needs? Thanks.

I do not know what your needs are, nor what tcmu is, nor why you would
want to simulate a block device to userspace like this through the uio
api, sorry.

good luck!

greg k-h

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-17 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-17  2:29 [PATCH 1/2] uio: add ioctl to uio Guixin Liu
2022-02-17  2:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] scsi:target:tcmu: reduce once copy by using uio ioctl Guixin Liu
2022-02-17  6:45   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-17  8:07   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-17 10:15   ` Greg KH
2022-02-17 11:13     ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-02-17 12:28       ` Greg KH
2022-02-17 11:10   ` [RFC PATCH] scsi:target:tcmu: tcmu_ioctl_copy_between_sgl_and_iovec() can be static kernel test robot
2022-02-17 11:12   ` [PATCH 2/2] scsi:target:tcmu: reduce once copy by using uio ioctl kernel test robot
2022-02-21 17:09   ` Bodo Stroesser
2022-02-28  8:52     ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-02-28 10:47       ` Greg KH
2022-02-17  6:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] uio: add ioctl to uio Greg KH
     [not found]   ` <362edb61-b8ad-495e-2346-8020355c0938@linux.alibaba.com>
2022-02-17 12:30     ` Greg KH [this message]
2022-02-17 12:30   ` Xiaoguang Wang
2022-02-17  6:55 ` kernel test robot

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