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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0910060851590.3432@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254844007.4383.85.camel@mulgrave.site>



On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> This is mostly fixes.  However, it contains two new drivers: Brocade SAS
> (bfa), the Bladengine2 iSCSI (be2iscsi) under the merge window exemption

Btw, I'm getting less excited about the merge window exemption.

It makes sense for consumer devices that people actually hit and that are 
needed for bringup (ie they make a difference between a system that can be 
installed and used, and one that cannot), but I'm not at all sure it makes 
sense for things like this.

The _reason_ for the driver exemption was the fact that even a broken 
driver is better than no driver at all for somebody who just can't get a 
working system without it, but that argument really goes away when the 
driver is so specialized that it's not about regular hardware any more.

And the whole "driver exemption" seems to have become a by-word for "I can 
ignore the merge window for 50% of my code". Which makes me very tired of 
it if there aren't real advantages to real users.

So I'm seriously considering a "the driver has to be mass market and also 
actually matter to an install" rule for the exemption to be valid.

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-06 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06 15:46 [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-06 15:58 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2009-10-06 20:54   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-06 20:56     ` Randy Dunlap
2009-10-08 14:33     ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 14:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 19:48           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 19:55             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-08 21:07                 ` Theodore Tso
2009-10-08 21:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-09  9:15                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-09 13:10                       ` Daniel Walker
2009-10-09 14:08                       ` James Bottomley
2009-10-09 19:25                         ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 13:06                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 14:19                           ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:54                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-12 15:09                               ` Moving drivers into staging (was Re: [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3) Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:42                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                   ` <20091012154244.GA13323-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 23:24                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-13 18:08                                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-10-14  4:45                                         ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                           ` <20091014044519.GA19199-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  5:19                                             ` Joe Perches
2009-10-14  6:33                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 14:13                                                 ` James Smart
2009-10-14 17:52                                                 ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-14 18:36                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:00                                                     ` Stefan Richter
2009-10-15  6:03                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-14 19:11                                                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <20091012150911.GB1656-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 15:43                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 23:26                                     ` Greg KH
2009-10-12 15:25                               ` [GIT PULL] SCSI fixes for 2.6.32-rc3 James Bottomley
2009-10-12 17:24                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-13 14:29                                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-12 14:25                           ` Greg KH
2009-10-08 20:04               ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 20:25                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-10 14:37                   ` James Bottomley
2009-10-08 14:56         ` James Bottomley

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