From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66F4CC433E0 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405822074D for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:42:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728217AbgFPJm1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:42:27 -0400 Received: from kvm5.telegraphics.com.au ([98.124.60.144]:44190 "EHLO kvm5.telegraphics.com.au" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728202AbgFPJm0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:42:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by kvm5.telegraphics.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1CE274AC; Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 19:42:23 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: Chris Boot cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Bart Van Assche , Chuhong Yuan , "Martin K . Petersen" , Nicholas Bellinger , Stefan Richter Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: target/sbp: remove firewire SBP target driver In-Reply-To: <8da0c285-d707-a3d2-063e-472af5cc560f@boo.tc> Message-ID: References: <01020172acd3d10f-3964f076-a820-43fc-9494-3f3946e9b7b5-000000@eu-west-1.amazonses.com> <7ad14946-5c25-fc49-1e48-72d37a607832@boo.tc> <8da0c285-d707-a3d2-063e-472af5cc560f@boo.tc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Chris Boot wrote: > On 15/06/2020 00:28, Finn Thain wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Jun 2020, Chris Boot wrote: > > > >> I expect that if someone finds this useful it can stick around (but > >> that's not my call). > > > > Who's call is that? If the patch had said "From: Martin K. Petersen" > > and "This driver is being removed because it has the following > > defects..." that would be some indication of a good-faith willingness > > to accept users as developers in the spirit of the GPL, which is what > > you seem to be alluding to (?). > > If you're asking me, I'd say it was martin's call: > > > SCSI TARGET SUBSYSTEM > > M: "Martin K. Petersen" > [...] > > F: drivers/target/ > > F: include/target/ > The question I asked you was intended to make you think. I wasn't asking you to search MAINTAINERS for "drivers/target" (I had already done so). Chris, you can find my name in that file too. That's because I see my role as custodian of that particular code. That code lives in the kernel.org tree because others put it there and because users find it useful -- not merely because it happens to please the official glorious MAINTAINER of said code. If you would ask, "who's call is it to delete drivers/nubus? or drivers/scsi/NCR5380.c?" my answer is, I have no idea. > >> I just don't have the time or inclination or hardware to be able to > >> maintain it anymore, so someone else would have to pick it up. > >> > > > > Which is why most drivers get orphaned, right? > > Sure, but that's not what Martin asked me to do, hence this patch. > Martin said, "I'd appreciate a patch to remove it" And Bart said, "do you want to keep this driver in the kernel tree?" AFAICT both comments are quite ambiguous. I don't see an actionable request, just an expression of interest from people doing their jobs. Note well: there is no pay check associated with having a MAINTAINERS file entry.