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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 38308e7fff4ca-37d2369067bsm17074441fa.9.2025.11.29.07.01.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Nov 2025 07:01:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: Maxim Nikulin Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2025 22:01:41 +0700 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: admin: devices: /dev/sr for SCSI CD-ROM To: Bagas Sanjaya , Jonathan Corbet Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, "James E.J. Bottomley" , "Martin K. Petersen" , linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org References: Content-Language: en-US, ru-RU From: Max Nikulin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29/11/2025 13:13, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2025 at 12:12:32AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: >> +Usage of ``/dev/scd?`` as alternate SCSI CD-ROM names for ``sr?`` devices >> +ended around year 2011. > > What about "Support for /dev/scd? as alternative names for /dev/sr? has been > removed in 2011"? If others support your suggestion then I do not mind. Feel free to commit preferred variant ignoring my patch. I would be more verbose however by adding that it was removed namely from udev: Creation of ``/dev/scd?`` alternative names for ``sr?`` CD-ROM and other optical drives (using SCSI commands) was removed in ``udev-174`` (released in 2011). Perhaps I am biased by my confusion. Noticed that wodim tries to access currently absent /dev/scd0 for kernels >= X.6, I tried git blame game in kernel repository to find kernel version when scd were renamed to sr. It took some time for me to realize that it is impossible to determine scd vs. sr from kernel version. That is why I would consider adding explicit mention of udev. Otherwise for me it sounds like that scd? names were removed from kernel. I am not a native English speaker, so I do not insist on my variant. How long I should wait for comments before submitting another revision of the patch? I hope, pending changes are not an obstacle for those who are tempting to review the whole devices.rst file.