From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Documenting the correct pushback on AI inspired (and other) fixes in older drivers
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2026 12:58:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0a696dea2b68b99f604ce8bfb897fc3d38acc90.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5938441c-aaa9-c405-a78a-a66f387a5370@linux-m68k.org>
On Fri, 2026-02-06 at 09:57 +1100, Finn Thain wrote:
>
> On Thu, 5 Feb 2026, James Bottomley wrote:
>
> > To set the stage, we in SCSI have seen an uptick in patches to
> > older drivers mostly fixing missing free (data leak) and data race
> > problems. I'm not even sure they're all AI found, but we don't
> > really need to know that.
>
> If I may predict the next scene, by extrapolating only a little, we
> are approaching the point where it will be feasible to request that
> an AI simply generate a new driver, based on chip datasheets plus all
> of the open source drivers available for training, rather than patch
> the bugs in an existing driver.
Seems possible, but do we care? For a driver we don't have, I think
we'd be reasonably happy to try out an AI generated one, assuming
there's a maintainer who has hardware to test. For existing drivers, I
think AI rewrites (even in rust) would be rejected.
> At that point, what use is a maintainer? I think we can still add
> value if we are able to leverage our ability and experience in
> validating such code i.e. prove its correctness somehow. If we can
> do that, then the codebase we presently call Linux might continue to
> grow because it would remain superior than some AI-generated
> alternative codebase.
Well, I don't think regarding Maintainers as being in competition with
AI will be very productive. AI is a tool for maintainers to use, if
they wish, to augment their other skills.
> Documentation that would raise the bar for patch submissions seems
> like a band-aid. The basic complaint seems to be that minor fixes
> have become cheaper and easier to produce, overwhelming reviewers.
> The solution has to be, make code review cheaper and more effective
> i.e. fight fire with fire.
Chris Mason is already doing that, I think. However, I didn't anchor
my proposal around lack of review, I anchored it to a better documented
risk/benefit calculation ... and that doesn't change enormously however
many reviews the patch gets.
Regards,
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-08 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-05 9:51 [LSF/MM/BPF TOPIC] Documenting the correct pushback on AI inspired (and other) fixes in older drivers James Bottomley
2026-02-05 16:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-02-05 20:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-02-05 22:38 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 16:40 ` Haris Iqbal
2026-02-05 22:40 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-05 23:37 ` Chuck Lever
2026-02-05 22:57 ` Finn Thain
2026-02-06 5:18 ` Darrick J. Wong
2026-02-06 22:38 ` Finn Thain
2026-02-08 17:58 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2026-02-08 23:41 ` Finn Thain
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