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From: yangxingui <yangxingui@huawei.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>, <yanaijie@huawei.com>,
	<jejb@linux.ibm.com>, <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linuxarm@huawei.com>, <liuyonglong@huawei.com>,
	<kangfenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] scsi: libsas: Support spinup notification for SAS devices
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2026 09:45:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eebb9aec-0a77-b609-ff87-9e8be88cf4e5@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e4c4aab-81d2-4f5b-bbcf-087eb92feb6d@oracle.com>



On 2026/8/5 19:43, John Garry wrote:
> On 04/08/2026 10:30, yangxingui wrote:
>>>
>>> How would other SAS HBAs which use libsas handle this scenario? Since 
>>> they have FW, would the FW automatically issue this NOTIFY(ENABLE 
>>> SPINUP)?
>>>
>>> I just wonder why hisi_sas seems to be only driver which would need 
>>> this.
>>
>> Thanks for the question. This affects only SAS HDDs. I checked pm8001, 
>> isci, and aic94xx — all handle NOTIFY(ENABLE SPINUP) at the driver level:
>>
>> - pm8001: sends once at phy-up, then mdelay(200) — comment: "delay a 
>> moment to wait disk to spinup" — before notifying libsas.
>>
>> - isci: enables hardware periodic insertion during link idle (ENABLE 
>> bit in notify_enable_spinup_control), cleared at phy stop.
>>
>> - aic94xx: enables microcode periodic insertion during link idle 
>> (NOTIFY_TIMER_TIMEOUT = 500ms interval), stops at phy down.
>>
>> hisi_sas also calls sl_notify_ssp() at phy-up, but the NOTIFY_EN bit 
>> is held for only 1ms — msleep(1) between setting and clearing — before 
>> immediately notifying libsas.
>>
>> The root cause appears to be that 1ms is insufficient compared to 
>> pm8001's 200ms. An alternative to hisi_sas would be to simply increase 
>> the hold time in sl_notify_ssp() to match pm8001's approach, keeping 
>> the fix within hisi_sas.
>>
>> Would you prefer this simpler approach, or do you still see value in 
>> the libsas-level sense detection and callback from hisi_sas? ^-^
> 
> I think that if you can resolve this in the LL driver then that would be 
> better.

Okay, thanks a lot.

Xingui


      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-06  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-03  2:05 [PATCH v3 0/2] scsi: libsas: Support spinup notification for SAS devices Xingui Yang
2026-08-03  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] scsi: libsas: Add PHYE_NOTIFY_ENABLE_SPINUP phy event for ASC/ASCQ=0x04/0x11 Xingui Yang
2026-08-03  4:17   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-03  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] scsi: hisi_sas: Add lldd_notify_enable_spinup callback for SAS devices Xingui Yang
2026-08-03  2:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-04  7:35 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] scsi: libsas: Support spinup notification " John Garry
2026-08-04  9:30   ` yangxingui
2026-08-05 11:43     ` John Garry
2026-08-06  1:45       ` yangxingui [this message]

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