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From: Alex Elsayed <eternaleye@gmail.com>
To: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Cc: target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] target: Add a user-passthrough backstore
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:43:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lvi81j$ud8$2@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1411161279.23258.26.camel@haakon3.risingtidesystems.com

Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:

<snip>
> So the idea of allowing the in-kernel CDB emulation to run after
> user-space has returned unsupported opcode is problematic for a couple
> of different reasons.
> 
> First, if the correct feature bits in standard INQUIRY + EVPD INQUIRY,
> etc are not populated by user-space to match what in-kernel CDB
> emulation actually supports, this can result in potentially undefined
> results initiator side.
> 
> Also for example, if user-space decided to emulate only a subset of PR
> operations, and leaves the rest of it up to the in-kernel emulation,
> there's not really a way to sync current state between the two, which
> also can end up with undefined results.
> 
> So that said, I think a saner approach would be two define two modes of
> operation for TCMU:
> 
>    *) Passthrough Mode: All CDBs are passed to user-space, and no
>       in-kernel emulation is done in the event of an unsupported
>       opcode response.
> 
>    *) I/O Mode: I/O related CDBs are passed into user-space, but
>       all control CDBs continue to be processed by in-kernel emulation.
>       This effectively limits operation to TYPE_DISK, but with this mode
>       it's probably OK to assume this.
> 
> This seems like the best trade-off between flexibility when everything
> should be handled by user-space, vs. functionality when only block
> remapping of I/O is occurring in user-space code.

The problem there is that the first case has all the issues of pscsi and 
simply becomes a performance optimization over tgt+iscsi client+pscsi and 
the latter case excludes the main use cases I'm interested in - OSDs, media 
changers, optical discs (the biggest thing for me), and so forth.

One of the main things I want to do with this is hook up a plugin that uses 
libmirage to handle various optical disc image formats.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-19 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-15 23:12 [PATCH 0/4] Userspace Passthrough backstore for LIO Andy Grover
2014-09-15 23:12 ` [PATCH 1/4] target: Remove unneeded check in sbc_parse_cdb Andy Grover
2014-09-15 23:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] uio: Export definition of struct uio_device Andy Grover
2014-09-15 23:12 ` [PATCH 3/4] target: Add documentation on the target userspace pass-through driver Andy Grover
2014-09-15 23:12 ` [PATCH 4/4] target: Add a user-passthrough backstore Andy Grover
2014-09-19 21:14   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-09-19 21:43     ` Alex Elsayed [this message]
2014-09-19 23:39       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-09-19 23:51         ` Alex Elsayed
2014-09-20  0:35           ` Andy Grover
2014-09-20  0:40             ` Alex Elsayed
2014-09-22 20:58             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-09-22 21:00               ` Andy Grover
2014-09-22 21:03                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-09-22 20:36           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger

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