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From: Sven Rudolph <Sven_Rudolph@drewag.de>
To: Christopher Allen Wing <wingc@engin.umich.edu>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: any experience with PCI Express parallel scsi controllers?
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 17:36:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xfkmz384whw.fsf@uxrs53.drewag.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0702200959540.12650@gx620.engin.umich.edu> (Christopher Allen Wing's message of "Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:10:11 -0500 (EST)")

Christopher Allen Wing <wingc@engin.umich.edu> writes:

> I'm trying to connect some older SCSI devices to new servers which
> only have PCI Express expansion slots.  Unfortunately it seems that
> there are very few parallel SCSI HBA cards available for PCI Express
> systems.  Most SCSI controller manufacturers are only selling PCI-X
> cards if you want parallel SCSI.
>
>
> Has anyone else been in this situation?  One product that we found is
> a board sold by HP (HP SC11Xe) based on a LSI Logic chipset.  This is
> a PCI Express controller with a single U320 parallel SCSI channel.  It
> is reasonably priced ($200); unfortunately, the documentation on HP's
> web site states that it will only work with tape devices.

I am quite sure that this is only a marketing (or technical support)
issue. Big vendors tend to strongly suggest hardware RAID controllers
for disks, which makes sense from a Windows point of view. (I have
Adaptec 29160LP Controllers bought from Fujitsu-Siemens; and FSC only
supports these controllers for Tape devices for this reason.) I see no
technical reason why the HP ones shouldn't work with disks.

A limitation compared to cards from LSI and Adaptec: HP supports
this card only for the listed HP servers.

Unfortunately LSI doesn't build/sell this card directly.

> Otherwise, Adaptec does not seem to sell any parallel SCSI cards for
> PCI Express;

A card called 29320LPE is expected in March; and a patch adding the
PCI-ID already appeared on this list. As the name indicates, this is
one Ultra 320 Channel, low profile PCI. I plan to wait for this card.

> There is also an ATTO Technology PCI Express card with
> parallel SCSI; it sells for around $500.

(...and provides two SCSI busses, so it is not that overpriced.) I
bought the UL5D Low-Profile and tested it. It needs a small patch
against the MPT-Fusion driver; the patch is provided on the Atto
Website in a login-protected area; and there is a licence-agreement
required (non-distribution and all that junk).

(In my non-lawyer-opinion this patch is a derived work and hence it
must be licensed under the GPL.)

If the patch where GPL, it could be integrated into the upstream
MPT-Fusion driver. (The patch itself worked fine.)

I asked Atto via E-Mail; but I didn't receive an answer. So I don't
use the Atto card (and do not buy new ones) until these cards are
supported by vanilla kernel.

(Atto nowadays promotes a binary-only driver instead of the small
patch, which is not acceptable for me either and seems to indicate
that their idea on doing business doesn't fit that well with Linux'
open-source approach.)

As said above, I am waiting for the Adaptec card...

	Sven



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-20 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-20 15:10 any experience with PCI Express parallel scsi controllers? Christopher Allen Wing
2007-02-20 16:10 ` Frederic TEMPORELLI
2007-02-20 16:36 ` Sven Rudolph [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-02-20 17:04 Moore, Eric

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