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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: David Buckley <dbuckley@oreilly.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: problem with discard granularity in sd
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 20:12:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1d1crvhjv.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xd3XHp381w87Fr5_HGU5gBpWMSRSwD+pRacGkHu7Rp7CYUfg@mail.gmail.com> (David Buckley's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2017 09:52:38 -0700")

David Buckley <dbuckley@oreilly.com> writes:

David,

> They result in discard granularity being forced to logical block size
> if the disk reports LBPRZ is enabled (which the netapp luns do).

Block zeroing and unmapping are currently sharing some plumbing and that
has lead to some compromises. In this case a bias towards ensuring data
integrity for zeroing at the expense of not aligning unmap requests.

Christoph has worked on separating those two functions. His code is
currently under review.

> I'm not sure of the implications of either the netapp changes, though
> reporting 4k logical blocks seems potential as this is supported in
> newer OS at least.

Yes, but it may break legacy applications that assume a 512-byte logical
block size.

> The sd change potentially would at least partially undo the patches
> referenced above.  But it would seem that (assuming an aligned
> filesystem with 4k blocks and minimum_io_size=4096) there is no
> possibility of a partial block discard or advantage to sending the
> discard requests in 512 blocks?

The unmap granularity inside a device is often much, much bigger than
4K. So aligning to that probably won't make a difference. And it's
imperative to filesystems that zeroing works at logical block size
granularity.

The expected behavior for a device is that it unmaps whichever full
unmap granularity chunks are described by a received request. And then
explicitly zeroes any partial chunks at the head and tail. So I am
surprised you see no reclamation whatsoever.

With the impending zero/unmap separation things might fare better. But
I'd still like to understand the behavior you observe. Please provide
the output of:

sg_vpd -p lbpv /dev/sdN
sg_vpd -p bl /dev/sdN

for one of the LUNs and I'll take a look.

Thanks!

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-05  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-31 16:52 problem with discard granularity in sd David Buckley
2017-04-05  0:12 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2017-04-05 16:14   ` David Buckley
2017-04-06 17:34     ` Martin K. Petersen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-11 18:07 David Buckley
2017-04-12  1:55 ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-12 23:58   ` David Buckley
2017-04-14  2:44     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-04-14 20:07       ` David Buckley

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