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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: configurable discard parameters
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:15:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1fv5g37wj.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGnHSEk_PoY=UQXrcEeBVpWBJApsUcySKSRnHuLM5vOdC429Eg@mail.gmail.com> (Tom Yan's message of "Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:46:02 +0800")

>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Yan <tom.ty89@gmail.com> writes:

Tom> First of all it wouldn't really solve problem for all devices which
Tom> have different limits.

Only by virtue of us generally aligning on large power of two
boundaries.

The only reason I am entertaining this in the first place is that I have
one drive that behaves in a way similar to yours. And if we can make
things slightly better (but not perfect) for several drives without
causing any regressions then that's worth exploring.

Tom> Secondly I doubt it's related to Deterministic Zero AT ALL. (For
Tom> one the SanDisk drive I have shows Deterministic Zero, still it
Tom> behaves similarly as the Intel drive.)

The drive reporting deterministic zero is not enough. It needs to be
explicitly whitelisted before we report discard_zeroes_data=1.

Tom> The only patching which would really mean something is to allow
Tom> user to configure blocks per range and ranges per command, so that
Tom> for users can tune kernel TRIM per device if they really want to,
Tom> while leaving the "safe default" intact.

I'll think about it.

Tom> However I am really curious how the drives "blow up" on less blocks
Tom> per range. Isn't that even more of a firmware bug than the problem
Tom> I have?

I have several older drives that expect a single contiguous LBA
range. They don't handle multiple discontiguous ranges at all.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-25  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-20 17:12 configurable discard parameters Tom Yan
2015-06-21  0:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-21  7:03   ` Tom Yan
2015-06-21  8:05     ` Tom Yan
2015-06-21 12:36       ` Tom Yan
2015-06-21 20:30         ` Tom Yan
2015-06-22 20:57           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-23 14:16             ` Tom Yan
2015-06-23 15:36               ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-23 16:41                 ` Tom Yan
2015-06-23 17:03                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-23 17:24                     ` Tom Yan
2015-06-23 18:26                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-23 21:25                         ` Tom Yan
2015-06-24  2:55                           ` Martin K. Petersen
2015-06-24 12:46                             ` Tom Yan
2015-06-25  1:15                               ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2015-06-26  7:05                                 ` Tom Yan

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