From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Daniel Borkmann Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:42:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Is SCTP throughput really this low compared to TCP? Message-Id: <53479CF8.7040807@redhat.com> List-Id: References: <1383F7BACEF3F141A39A7AC90F80407E31B23A@psmwsonsmbx01.sonusnet.com> In-Reply-To: <1383F7BACEF3F141A39A7AC90F80407E31B23A@psmwsonsmbx01.sonusnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org Hi Peter, On 04/10/2014 10:21 PM, Vlad Yasevich wrote: > On 04/10/2014 03:12 PM, Butler, Peter wrote: >> I've been testing SCTP throughput between two nodes over a 10Gb-Ethernet backplane, and am finding that at best, its throughput is about a third of that of TCP. Is this number generally accepted for current LKSCTP performance? >> >> All TCP/SCTP tests performed with 1000-byte (payload) messages, between 8-core Xeon nodes @ 2.13GHz, with no CPU throttling (always running at 100%) on otherwise idle systems. Test applications include netperf, iperf and proprietary in-house stubs. >> >> The latency between nodes is generally 0.2 ms. Tests were run using this low-latency scenario, as well as using traffic control (tc) to simulate networks with 10 ms, 20 ms and 50 ms latency (i.e. 20 ms, 40 ms and 100 ms RTT, respectively). >> >> In addition, each of these network scenarios were tested using various kernel socket buffer sizes, ranging from the default kernel size (100-200 kB), to several MB for send and receive buffers, and multiple send:receive ratios for these buffer sizes (generally using larger receive buffer sizes, up to a factor of about 6). >> >> Finally, tests were performed on kernels as old as 3.4.2 and as recent as 3.14. >> >> The TCP throughput is about 3x higher than that of SCTP as a best-case scenario (i.e. from an SCTP perspective), and much higher still in worst-case scenarios. > > To do a more of apples-to-apples comparison, you need to disable tso/gso > on the sending node. > > The reason is that even if you limit buffer sizes, tcp will still try to > do tso on the transmit size, thus coalescing you 1000-byte messages into > something much larger, thus utilizing your MTU much more efficiently. > > SCTP, on the other hand, has to preserve message boundaries which > results in sub-optimal mtu utilization when using 1000-byte payloads. > > My recommendation is to use 1464 byte message for SCTP on a 1500 byte > MTU nic. > > I would be interested to see the results. There could very well be issues. Agreed. Also, what NIC are you using? It seems only Intel provides SCTP checksum offloading so far, i.e. ixgbe/i40e NICs. > -vlad