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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, zohar@linux.ibm.com,
	serge@hallyn.com, christian.brauner@ubuntu.com,
	containers@lists.linux.dev, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com,
	roberto.sassu@huawei.com, mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com,
	lsturman@redhat.com, puiterwi@redhat.com, jejb@linux.ibm.com,
	jamjoom@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	paul@paul-moore.com, rgb@redhat.com,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 00/23] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:34:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <02a1501c-bf7d-e572-e1c2-4e7eeed3cf15@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220126131907.5fauajyjfbcnienp@wittgenstein>


On 1/26/22 08:19, Christian Brauner wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:46:22PM -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>> From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
>>
>> The goal of this series of patches is to start with the namespacing of
>> IMA and support auditing within an IMA namespace (IMA-ns) as the first
>> step.
>>
>> In this series the IMA namespace is piggy backing on the user namespace
>> and therefore an IMA namespace is created when a user namespace is
>> created, although this is done late when SecurityFS is mounted inside
>> a user namespace. The advantage of piggy backing on the user namespace
>> is that the user namespace can provide the keys infrastructure that IMA
>> appraisal support will need later on.
>>
>> We chose the goal of supporting auditing within an IMA namespace since it
>> requires the least changes to IMA. Following this series, auditing within
>> an IMA namespace can be activated by a user running the following lines
>> that rely on a statically linked busybox to be installed on the host for
>> execution within the minimal container environment:
>>
>> mkdir -p rootfs/{bin,mnt,proc}
>> cp /sbin/busybox rootfs/bin
>> cp /sbin/busybox rootfs/bin/busybox2
>> echo >> rootfs/bin/busybox2
>> PATH=/bin unshare --user --map-root-user --mount-proc --pid --fork \
>>    --root rootfs busybox sh -c \
>>   "busybox mount -t securityfs /mnt /mnt; \
>>    busybox echo 1 > /mnt/ima/active; \
>>    busybox echo 'audit func=BPRM_CHECK mask=MAY_EXEC' > /mnt/ima/policy; \
> I think we need to limit the number of rules that can be added to an ima
> namespace to prevent DOS attacks. The current implementation allows
> users to write as many ima rules as they want.
>
> My suggestion would be that you look at real-world data to figure out
> what a fairly common number of rules is that people write. Then use this
> as the hard-coded limit for a first implementation. If the use-case


I would now go with a hard-coded (generous) limit of 1024 rules for 
non-init_ima_ns, and leave init_ima_ns unbounded.


> arises you can later make this limit configurable by introducing a
> ucount for ima rules via /proc/sys/user/max_ima_rules.

Ok, let's defer this.


>
> Additionally, you should probably switch a lot of ima allocations from
> GFP_KERNEL to GFP_KERNEL_ACCOUNT as allocations triggerable from userns
> should be treated as untrusted.
Ok, done.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-28 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-25 22:46 [PATCH v9 00/23] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 01/23] ima: Remove ima_policy file before directory Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  8:30   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 02/23] ima: Do not print policy rule with inactive LSM labels Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  8:38   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-27 14:12     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 03/23] securityfs: rework dentry creation Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 04/23] securityfs: Extend securityfs with namespacing support Stefan Berger
2022-01-27 16:53   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-31 22:28     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-31 23:43       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 05/23] ima: Define ima_namespace struct and start moving variables into it Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  8:47   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 06/23] ima: Move arch_policy_entry into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  9:11   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-27 19:42     ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 07/23] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  9:16   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 08/23] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  9:21   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 22:23     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-27 21:48       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-28 14:06         ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 09/23] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem " Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  9:23   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-27 22:30   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-28 15:44     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-28 16:03       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 10/23] ima: Move IMA securityfs files into ima_namespace or onto stack Stefan Berger
2022-01-26  9:40   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-27 17:02     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-28  3:13       ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 11/23] ima: Move ima_lsm_policy_notifier into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 13:05   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 21:54     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 12/23] ima: Define mac_admin_ns_capable() as a wrapper for ns_capable() Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 13:43   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 13/23] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 13:44   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 14/23] userns: Add pointer to ima_namespace to user_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 14:46   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 15/23] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 12:39   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 22:05     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 16/23] ima: Implement ima_free_policy_rules() for freeing of an ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2022-01-28 14:02   ` Mimi Zohar
2022-01-31 18:56     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 17/23] ima: Add functions for creating and " Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 13:56   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 18/23] integrity/ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 19/23] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 20/23] ima: Setup securityfs for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 14:03   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 21/23] ima: Introduce securityfs file to activate an " Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 14:31   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-27 15:24     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 22/23] ima: Show owning user namespace's uid and gid when displaying policy Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 14:43   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 14:43     ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 23:13     ` Stefan Berger
2022-01-25 22:46 ` [PATCH v9 23/23] ima: Enable IMA namespaces Stefan Berger
2022-01-26 14:57   ` Christian Brauner
2022-01-26 13:19 ` [PATCH v9 00/23] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Christian Brauner
2022-01-28 18:34   ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2022-01-26 16:52 ` Stefan Berger

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