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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, Chris Fenner <cfenn@google.com>,
	Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley	 <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"open list:KEYS-TRUSTED"	 <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SECURITY SUBSYSTEM"	
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list	 <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 01/11] KEYS: trusted: Use get_random-fallback for TPM
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2026 13:04:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <06a08cbbe47111a1795e5dcd42fb8cc4be643a72.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260125192526.782202-2-jarkko@kernel.org>

[Cc: Chris Fenner, Jonathan McDowell, Roberto]

On Sun, 2026-01-25 at 21:25 +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> 1. tpm2_get_random() is costly when TCG_TPM2_HMAC is enabled and thus its
>    use should be pooled rather than directly used. This both reduces
>    latency and improves its predictability.

If the concern is the latency of encrypting the bus session, please remember
that:

- Not all environments expose the TPM bus to sniffing.
- The current TPM trusted keys design is based on TPM RNG, but already allows it
to be replaced with the kernel RNG via the "trusted_rng=kernel" boot command
line option.
- The proposed patch removes that possibility for no reason.

Mimi & Elaine



  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-20 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-25 19:25 [PATCH v9 00/11] Streamline TPM2 HMAC sessions Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 01/11] KEYS: trusted: Use get_random-fallback for TPM Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-29 16:18   ` Roberto Sassu
2026-02-01 22:25     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-20 18:04   ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2026-02-20 18:30     ` Chris Fenner
2026-03-03 21:32       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-03-05 15:37         ` Mimi Zohar
2026-03-18 17:36           ` Chris Fenner
2026-03-19 14:28             ` Mimi Zohar
2026-03-23  5:26               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-03-23  5:34                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-03-23  5:46                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-03-23  5:24           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-03-03 21:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 02/11] KEYS: trusted: Use get_random_bytes_wait() instead of tpm_get_random() Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 03/11] tpm: Change tpm_get_random() opportunistic Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 04/11] tpm2-sessions: Define TPM2_NAME_MAX_SIZE Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 05/11] KEYS: trusted: Open code tpm2_buf_append() Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 06/11] KEYS: trusted: Remove dead branch from tpm2_unseal_cmd Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 07/11] KEYS: trusted: Re-orchestrate tpm2_read_public() calls Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 08/11] tpm2-sessions: Remove the support for more than one authorization Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 09/11] tpm-buf: Remove tpm_buf_append_handle Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 10/11] tpm-buf: Merge TPM_BUF_BOUNDARY_ERROR and TPM_BUF_OVERFLOW Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-01-25 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 11/11] tpm-buf: Implement managed allocations Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-02-08 14:09   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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