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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	autofs@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Security Module list 
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	SElinux list <selinux@vger.kernel.org>,
	Zdenek Pytela <zpytela@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Commit 13c164b1a186 - regression for LSMs/SELinux?
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 08:30:31 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c966f624c22fef7e641f9520b85152ede3dd371.camel@themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200921163011.GZ3421308@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Mon, 2020-09-21 at 17:30 +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:09:22PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > [adding Linus and Al]
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 04:51:35PM +0200, Ondrej Mosnacek wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > > 
> > > It seems that after commit 13c164b1a186 ("autofs: switch to
> > > kernel_write") there is now an extra LSM permission required (for
> > > the
> > > current task to write to the automount pipe) for processes
> > > accessing
> > > some yet-to-to-be mounted directory on which an autofs mount is
> > > set
> > > up. The call chain is:
> > > [...]
> > > autofs_wait() ->
> > > autofs_notify_daemon() ->
> > > autofs_write() ->
> > > kernel_write() ->
> > > rw_verify_area() ->
> > > security_file_permission()
> > > 
> > > The bug report that led me to this commit is at [1].
> > > 
> > > Technically, this is a regression for LSM users, since this is a
> > > kernel-internal operation and an LSM permission for the current
> > > task
> > > shouldn't be required. Can this patch be reverted? Perhaps
> > > __kernel_{read|write}() could instead be renamed to
> > > kernel_*_nocheck()
> > > so that the name is more descriptive?
> > 
> > So we obviously should not break existing user space and need to
> > fix
> > this ASAP.  The trivial "fix" would be to export __kernel_write
> > again
> > and switch autofs to use it.  The other option would be a FMODE
> > flag
> > to bypass security checks, only to be set if the callers ensures
> > they've been valided (i.e. in autofs_prepare_pipe).
> > 
> > Any opinions?
> 
> Reexport for now.  Incidentally, what is LSM doing rejecting writes
> into a pipe?

I had seen this too but thought it was due to selinux policy changes
but the previously linked bug shows the rejection is more widespread
than I thought.

A revert seems sensible for now but I'd like to understand why the
writes are being rejected too, I'll have a look around.

Ian


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-22  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-21 14:51 Commit 13c164b1a186 - regression for LSMs/SELinux? Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-21 16:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-21 16:27   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-21 16:30   ` Al Viro
2020-09-22  0:30     ` Ian Kent [this message]
2020-09-22  1:35       ` Ian Kent
2020-09-22  7:33     ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-22 12:29       ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-23  1:55       ` Ian Kent
2020-09-24  8:36         ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-24  9:47           ` Ian Kent
2020-09-24 14:16           ` Stephen Smalley
2020-09-25  3:37             ` Ian Kent
2020-09-25  3:44               ` Ian Kent
2020-09-25 13:37             ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-25 17:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-27  3:07                 ` Ian Kent
2020-09-29 12:16                   ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-09-29 17:23                     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-09-29 18:00                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30  5:50                         ` Ian Kent
2020-09-30 10:39                           ` Ian Kent
2020-09-30  5:42                     ` Ian Kent

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