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From: git@andred.net (André Draszik)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 3/3] encrypted-keys: document new fscrypt key format
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:38:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1516199939.28972.101.camel@andred.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180111044801.GB943@zzz.localdomain>

Hi Eric,

On Wed, 2018-01-10 at 20:48 -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> Hi Andr?,
> 
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:44:18PM +0000, Andr? Draszik wrote:
> > diff --git a/Documentation/security/keys/fscrypt.rst
> > b/Documentation/security/keys/fscrypt.rst
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..e4a29592513e
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/Documentation/security/keys/fscrypt.rst
> > @@ -0,0 +1,67 @@
> > +========================================
> > +Encrypted keys for the fscrypt subsystem
> > +========================================
> 
> There is now documentation for fscrypt in
> Documentation/filesystems/fscrypt.rst;
> see in particular the "Adding keys" section.  The documentation for any
> new ways
> to add keys should go in there.

Done.

> 
> > +
> > +fscrypt allows file systems to implement transparent encryption and
> > decryption
> > +of files, similar to eCryptfs, using keys derived from a master key
> > descriptor.
> 
> Note that the master key *descriptor* refers to the hex string used in the
> keyring key description.  It is not the same as the master key itself,
> which is
> stored in the payload.  The cryptography is done with the master key, not
> with
> the master key *descriptor*.

Ups, thanks.

> > [...]
> 
> Please be very clear about exactly what security properties are achieved
> by
> using encrypted-keys.

I've left out all of this in the updated documentation, as any such
information should probably be in Documentation/security/keys/trusted-
encrypted.rst in the first place.

> 
[...]
> > +
> > +Example of encrypted key usage with the fscrypt subsystem:
> > +
> > +Create an encrypted key "1234567890123456" of length 64 bytes with
> > format
> > +'fscrypt' and save it using a previously loaded user key "test"::
> > +
> > +    $ keyctl add encrypted fscrypt:1234567890123456 "new fscrypt
> > user:test 64" @u
> > +    1023935199
> > +
> > +    $ keyctl print 1023935199
> > +    fscrypt user:test 64
> > e5606689fdc25d78a787249f4069fb3b007e992f4b21d0eda60
> > +    c97986fc2e3326b5542e2b32216fc5007d9fd19cd3cb6668fa9850e954d2ba25e1b
> > 8a331
> > +    1b0c1f20666c
> > +
> > +    $ keyctl pipe 1023935199 > fscrypt.blob
> 
> What is the point of having the kernel wrap a key with the "user" key
> type?  It
> seems pointless; userspace could just do it instead.

Yes... My real reasoning is being able to use an encrypted key, backed by a
trusted TPM key.

I've updated the examples.

> 
[...]
> I think it's really only "trusted" wrapping keys where this new feature
> would
> have any useful security properties.  So the documentation needs to
> explain
> that, and use that in the examples.

You're right. Done.


Cheers,
Andr?

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-17 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 12:44 [PATCH 1/3] encrypted-keys: add fscrypt format support André Draszik
2018-01-10 12:44 ` [PATCH 2/3] fscrypt: add support for the encrypted key type André Draszik
2018-01-10 12:44 ` [PATCH 3/3] encrypted-keys: document new fscrypt key format André Draszik
2018-01-11  4:48   ` Eric Biggers
2018-01-17 14:38     ` André Draszik [this message]
2018-01-17 18:05       ` Theodore Ts'o
2018-01-19  9:16         ` André Draszik
2018-01-11  4:00 ` [PATCH 1/3] encrypted-keys: add fscrypt format support Eric Biggers
2018-01-17 14:29   ` André Draszik
2018-01-18  0:18     ` Eric Biggers

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