From: zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Mimi Zohar)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 0/4] ima: unverifiable file signatures
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:17:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1519748278.3562.394.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1uzw5e6.fsf@xmission.com>
On Mon, 2018-02-26 at 20:08 -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > For local filesystems, the kernel prevents files being executed from
> > being modified. With IMA-measurement enabled, the kernel also emits
> > audit "time of measure, time of use" messages for files opened for
> > read, and subsequently opened for write.
> >
> > Files on fuse are initially measured, appraised, and audited. Although
> > the file data can change dynamically any time, making re-measuring,
> > re-appraising, or re-auditing pointless, this patch set attempts to
> > differentiate between unprivileged non-init root and privileged
> > mounted fuse filesystems.
> >
> > This patch set addresses three different scenarios:
> > - Unprivileged non-init root mounted fuse filesystems are untrusted.
> > Signature verification should always fail and re-measuring,
> > re-appraising, re-auditing files makes no sense.
> >
> > Always enabled.
> >
> > - For privileged mounted filesystems in a "secure" environment, with a
> > correctly enforced security policy, which is willing to assume the
> > inherent risk of specific fuse filesystems, it is reasonable to
> > re-measure, re-appraise, and re-audit files.
> >
> > Enabled by default to prevent breaking existing systems.
> >
> > - Privileged mounted filesystems unwilling to assume the risks and
> > prefers to fail safe.
> >
> > Enabled based on policy.
>
> I really like the way the flags work in this patchset.
>
> There is a lot of other nit-picking and bike-shedding I would like to
> do. However those are details specific to IMA. So my opion really
> doesn't count.
>
> Those two flags set as you have them in the last patch make it possible
> to slightly alter details of when they get set, that are in the perview
> of filesystems without having too big a debate over them.
>
> The changes I imagine most easily are:
> In fuse_fill_super:
> if (!fc->allow_other)
> sb->s_iflags |= SB_I_UNTRUSTED_MOUNTER;
Right, as described, above, as the 2nd senario.
>
> In sget_user_ns:
> if (sb->s_user_ns != &init_user_ns)
> sb->s_iflags |= SB_I_UNTRUSTED_MOUNTER;
The filesystems would then only set SB_I_IMA_UNVERIFIABLE_SIGNATURE.
>
> My biggest nitpick is I would be inclined to flip the sense of the
> unverifiable_sigs policy. By default not trust and trust only if
> a special command line option was given. But I realize this could
> run into backwards compatibility concerns. And it is IMA specific so
> not really my call.
The boot command line policy option forces the system to fail safe.
Reversing the default to fail unverifiable_sigs and only allow them
based on policy, would not be a simple command line option, but would
require a per filesystem rule.
I agree with you, but as we're not breaking existing userspace, our
only option is to audit/log the concern, as suggested by Linus in
other threads. ?It would be nice if we could audit/log it once per
each mount.
>
> But the important part is what winds up in the core of ima. Baring
> typo's I think you have something we can all live with.
>
> So double check yourself and let's start getting this merged.
Sure.
Mimi
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-27 16:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-22 21:33 [PATCH v2 0/4] ima: unverifiable file signatures Mimi Zohar
2018-02-22 21:33 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] ima: fail file signature verification on non-init mounted filesystems Mimi Zohar
2018-02-27 1:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27 15:33 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-02-22 21:33 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] ima: re-evaluate files on privileged " Mimi Zohar
2018-02-22 21:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] ima: fail signature verification based on policy Mimi Zohar
2018-02-27 22:35 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-02-28 11:38 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-02-28 15:30 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2018-03-02 21:10 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-02-22 21:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] fuse: define the filesystem as untrusted Mimi Zohar
2018-02-23 4:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] ima: unverifiable file signatures James Morris
2018-02-27 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-27 16:17 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
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