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From: steven chen <chenste@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huaweicloud.com>,
	corbet@lwn.net, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, eric.snowberg@oracle.com,
	paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	gregorylumen@linux.microsoft.com, nramas@linux.microsoft.com,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	steven chen <chenste@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/13] ima: Support staging and deleting N measurements entries
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 16:28:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15b7bb2f-d419-4d9f-bed4-f36d14c2a094@linux.microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f00aabe05aeee7f6fd0426fd992839758d810da7.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On 5/26/2026 4:08 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-04-29 at 18:03 +0200, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>> From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
>>
>> Add support for sending a value N between 1 and ULONG_MAX to the IMA
>> original measurement interface. This value represents the number of
>> measurements that should be deleted from the current measurements list. In
>> this case, measurements are staged in an internal non-user visible list,
>> and immediately deleted.
>>
>> This staging method allows the remote attestation agents to easily separate
>> the measurements that were verified (staged and deleted) from those that
>> weren't due to the race between taking a TPM quote and reading the
>> measurements list.
> The reason for removing records from the IMA measurement list is to free kernel
> memory.  However, the level of precision in removing only those measurements
> needed for the quote seems necessary only if the measurement records are not
> being saved.  Upstreaming a feature to remove measurement records from the IMA
> measurement list is to address the kernel memory issue — clearly not to drop
> measurement records and break attestation.
>
>> In order to minimize the locking time of ima_extend_list_mutex, deleting
>> N entries is realized by doing a lockless walk in the current measurements
>> list to determine the N-th entry to cut, to cut the current measurements
>> list under the lock, and by deleting the excess entries after releasing the
>> lock.
>>
>> Flushing the hash table is not supported for N entries, since it would
>> require removing the N entries one by one from the hash table under the
>> ima_extend_list_mutex lock, which would increase the locking time.
>>
>> The ima_extend_list_mutex lock is necessary in ima_dump_measurement_list()
>> because ima_queue_delete_partial() uses __list_cut_position() to modify
>> ima_measurements, for which no RCU-safe variant exists. For the staging
>> with prompt flavor alone, list_replace_rcu() could have been used instead,
>> but since both flavors share the same kexec serialization path, the mutex
>> is required regardless.
> Thank you for the clear explanation for the changes and limitations required to
> support this feature.
>
> The changes needed for supporting "stage and delete N" measurement records
> should be limited to this patch.  Patch 9/13 should have used
> list_replace_rcu(), without the mutex_lock.
>
>> Link: https://github.com/linux-integrity/linux/issues/1
>> Suggested-by: Steven Chen <chenste@linux.microsoft.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>
> Otherwise,
>
> Reviewed-by: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>

Tested-by: Steven Chen <chenste@linux.microsoft.com>
Reviewed-by: Steven Chen <chenste@linux.microsoft.com>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-01 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-29 16:03 [PATCH v5 00/13] ima: Introduce staging mechanism Roberto Sassu
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 01/13] ima: Remove ima_h_table structure Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:05   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 02/13] ima: Replace static htable queue with dynamically allocated array Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:05   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/13] ima: Introduce per binary measurements list type ima_num_entries counter Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:05   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/13] ima: Introduce per binary measurements list type binary_runtime_size value Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:06   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-21  7:58     ` Roberto Sassu
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/13] ima: Introduce _ima_measurements_start() and _ima_measurements_next() Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:06   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/13] ima: Mediate open/release method of the measurements list Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:07   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-21  8:30     ` Roberto Sassu
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/13] ima: Use snprintf() in create_securityfs_measurement_lists Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:07   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/13] ima: Introduce ima_dump_measurement() Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21  2:07   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/13] ima: Add support for staging measurements with prompt Roberto Sassu
2026-05-04 12:51   ` Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21 15:18   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/13] ima: Add support for flushing the hash table when staging measurements Roberto Sassu
2026-05-21 16:06   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/13] ima: Support staging and deleting N measurements entries Roberto Sassu
2026-05-05 18:43   ` steven chen
2026-05-26 11:08   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-06-01 23:28     ` steven chen [this message]
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/13] ima: Return error on deleting measurements already copied during kexec Roberto Sassu
2026-05-26 14:02   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-29 14:59     ` Roberto Sassu
2026-06-01 13:47       ` Mimi Zohar
2026-04-29 16:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/13] doc: security: Add documentation of the IMA staging mechanism Roberto Sassu
2026-05-26 15:53   ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-07 16:47 ` [PATCH v5 00/13] ima: Introduce " steven chen
2026-05-11 17:29   ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2026-05-12  8:17     ` Roberto Sassu
2026-05-15 17:37       ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
2026-05-19  8:38         ` Roberto Sassu
2026-05-26 14:10     ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-21  2:02 ` Mimi Zohar
2026-05-27 13:57 ` Stefan Berger

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