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From: serge@hallyn.com (Serge E. Hallyn)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:34:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623183433.GB21137@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d288ea69-adec-f257-30cb-b1d9c57c996b@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Quoting Stefan Berger (stefanb at linux.vnet.ibm.com):
> On 06/23/2017 01:07 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> >On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:30 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> >>Quoting Casey Schaufler (casey at schaufler-ca.com):
> >>>Or maybe just security.ns.capability, taking James' comment into
> >>>account.
> >>That last one may be suitable as an option, useful for his particular
> >>(somewhat barbaric :) use case, but it's not ok for the general
> >>solution.
> >>
> >>If uid 1000 was delegated the subuids 100000-199999, it should be
> >>able to write a file capability for use by his subuids, but that file
> >>capability must not apply to other subuids.
> >I don't think it's barbaric, I think it's the common use case.  Let me
> >give a more comprehensible answer in terms of docker and IMA.  Lets
> >suppose I'm running docker locally and in a test cloud both with userns
> >enabled.
> >
> >I build an image locally, mapping my uid (1000) to root.  If I begin
> >with a standard base, each of the files has a security.ima signature.
> >  Now I add my layer, which involves updating a file, so I need to write
> >a new signature to security.ima.  Because I'm running user namespaced,
> >the update gets written at security.ima at uid=1000 when I do a docker
> >save.
> >
> >Now supposing I deploy that image to a cloud.  As a tenant, the cloud
> >gives me real uid 4531 and maps that to root.  Execution of the binary
> >fails because it tries to use the underlying signature (in
> >security.ima) as there is no xattr named security.ima at uid=4531
> 
> Yes. An answer would be to have Docker rewrite these on the fly. It
> knows what uid the container was running as and specifically looks
> for security.ima at uid=1000 or security.ima, takes the former if it
> finds, otherwise the latter or nothing.

I know many people hate this answer, but I just want to point out that
on my little laptop, while untarring a 500M images takes 9.5 seconds,
remapping all uids and gids and restoring setuid+setgid on that image
takes .01s.

It's high cpu utilization, and it's not zero time, but it's very fast,
and it's 100% safe (when done the right way, not "sudo domychown").

-serge
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-23 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-22 18:59 [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 1/3] xattr: Enable security.capability in user namespaces Stefan Berger
2017-06-24 21:02   ` [PATCH] xattr: fix kstrdup.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2017-06-24 21:02   ` [PATCH 1/3] xattr: Enable security.capability in user namespaces kbuild test robot
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 2/3] Enable capabilities of files from shared filesystem Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/3] Enable security.selinux in user namespaces Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 20:30   ` Stephen Smalley
2017-06-23 23:41     ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 19:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities Casey Schaufler
2017-06-22 20:12   ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 20:33     ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-22 21:03       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-22 21:09       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 22:40         ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-22 23:07           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 23:29 ` James Bottomley
2017-06-22 23:32   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-22 23:36   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23  0:13     ` James Bottomley
2017-06-23  1:19       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-23 18:39         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23  7:01 ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-23 16:00   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 16:16     ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 16:30       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 16:53         ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 17:01           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:49             ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-23 18:32               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:07         ` James Bottomley
2017-06-23 17:20           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 17:38           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 18:34             ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2017-06-23 18:08       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 18:35         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:30           ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-23 23:09           ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-23 23:51             ` Casey Schaufler
2017-06-28  5:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-28  7:18     ` Amir Goldstein
2017-06-28 14:04       ` Stefan Berger
2017-06-28 14:28       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-23 20:17   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2017-06-23 20:36     ` Vivek Goyal
2017-06-23 20:51       ` Serge E. Hallyn

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