From: jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com (Jarkko Sakkinen)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Fixing CVE-2017-15361
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2017 20:53:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171025185349.ocptudim3g35j6im@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACdnJus6=3XJEVsQEVY-sxqcUm2At4fKi5Ya+w0Hf==yq7ubKQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 07:17:17AM -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Jarkko Sakkinen
> <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > I'm implementing a fix for CVE-2017-15361 that simply blacklists
> > vulnerable FW versions. I think this is the only responsible action from
> > my side that I can do.
>
> I'm not sure this is ideal - do Infineon have any Linux tooling for
> performing firmware updates, and if so will that continue working if
> the device is blacklisted? It's also a poor user experience to have
> systems using TPM-backed disk encryption keys suddenly rendered
> unbootable, and making it as easy as possible for people to do an
> upgrade and then re-seal secrets with new keys feels like the correct
> approach.
I talked today with Alexander Steffen in the KS unconference and we
concluded that this would be a terrible idea.
Alexander stated the following things about FW updates (Alexander,
please correct me if I state something incorrectly or if you have
something to add):
* FW update can be constructed either in a way that the keys in the
NVRAM are not cleared or in a way that they are cleared.
* FW update cannot be directly applied to the TPM but must come as
part of the firmware update from the vendor.
I proposed the following as an alternative:
* Print a message to the klog (which log level would be appropriate?).
* Possibly sleep for few seconds. Is this a good idea?
While writing this email yet another alternative popped into my mind:
what if we allow only in-kernel use but disallow the use of /dev/tpm0?
You could still use trusted keys.
Here are all the ideas that I have and I am open for better
alternatives.
/Jarkko
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-25 18:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-25 13:44 Fixing CVE-2017-15361 Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 14:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-25 18:53 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-10-25 20:22 ` Jerry Snitselaar
2017-10-26 11:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-25 22:26 ` Peter Huewe
2017-10-26 11:16 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 11:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 12:59 ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 14:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 14:57 ` Michal Suchánek
2017-10-26 17:02 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 17:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:46 ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 17:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:42 ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 17:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-10-26 15:51 ` Alexander.Steffen at infineon.com
2017-10-26 19:07 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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