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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] yama: don't abuse rcu_read_lock/get_task_struct in yama_task_prctl()
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:00:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250219210042.GE5948@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250219201742.GD5948@redhat.com>

Forgot to say...

with or without this patch the usage of ptrace_relation->tracer/tracee
doesn't look right (safe) to me... but probably I missed something and
this is another story. Currently I am trying to audit the usage of
task->group_leader.

On 02/19, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>
> On 02/19, Kees Cook wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 05:14:17PM +0100, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > current->group_leader is stable, no need to take rcu_read_lock() and do
> > > get/put_task_struct().
> >
> > Can you explain why this is true? In trying to figure this out again,
> > it seems that the only way current->group_leader can vanish is if
> > the entire process vanishes (fork or thread exec), in which case the
> > "current" in this prctl can't be happening; this appears to be locked
> > behind tsk->sighand->siglock ?
> 
> Well, almost, but this has nothing to do with tsk->sighand->siglock...
> 
> task->group_leader can only be changed by thread exec, when a non leader
> thread does exec, see de_thread(). But de_thread() can't succeed and change
> ->group_leader until all other threads exit, see the "Kill all other threads
> in the thread group" code in de_thread(). The "current" task can't exit, so
> current->group_leader is stable.
> 
> Note also that we already have a lot of current->group_leader users which
> don't use rcu/get_task_struct.
> 
> That said, we have a lot of buggy users of tsk->group_leader when
> same_thread_group(tsk, current) != true ;) For example, sys_prlimit64().
> And note that rcu_read_lock/get_task_struct can't help in this case.
> I am going to send some fixes.
> 
> Oleg.
> 
> > 
> > -Kees
> > 
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  security/yama/yama_lsm.c | 9 ++-------
> > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/security/yama/yama_lsm.c b/security/yama/yama_lsm.c
> > > index 1971710620c1..3d064dd4e03f 100644
> > > --- a/security/yama/yama_lsm.c
> > > +++ b/security/yama/yama_lsm.c
> > > @@ -222,7 +222,7 @@ static int yama_task_prctl(int option, unsigned long arg2, unsigned long arg3,
> > >  			   unsigned long arg4, unsigned long arg5)
> > >  {
> > >  	int rc = -ENOSYS;
> > > -	struct task_struct *myself = current;
> > > +	struct task_struct *myself;
> > >  
> > >  	switch (option) {
> > >  	case PR_SET_PTRACER:
> > > @@ -232,11 +232,7 @@ static int yama_task_prctl(int option, unsigned long arg2, unsigned long arg3,
> > >  		 * leader checking is handled later when walking the ancestry
> > >  		 * at the time of PTRACE_ATTACH check.
> > >  		 */
> > > -		rcu_read_lock();
> > > -		if (!thread_group_leader(myself))
> > > -			myself = rcu_dereference(myself->group_leader);
> > > -		get_task_struct(myself);
> > > -		rcu_read_unlock();
> > > +		myself = current->group_leader;
> > >  
> > >  		if (arg2 == 0) {
> > >  			yama_ptracer_del(NULL, myself);
> > > @@ -255,7 +251,6 @@ static int yama_task_prctl(int option, unsigned long arg2, unsigned long arg3,
> > >  			}
> > >  		}
> > >  
> > > -		put_task_struct(myself);
> > >  		break;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > -- 
> > > 2.25.1.362.g51ebf55
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Kees Cook
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-19 16:14 [PATCH] yama: don't abuse rcu_read_lock/get_task_struct in yama_task_prctl() Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-19 19:33 ` Kees Cook
2025-02-19 20:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-02-19 21:00     ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-02-19 21:42       ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-03-04 23:53 ` Kees Cook

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