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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RDMA/uverbs: Consider capability of the process that opens the file
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 11:13:47 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250424141347.GS1648741@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY8PR12MB7195D5ED46D8E920A5281393DC852@CY8PR12MB7195.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 09:08:17AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > Since ib_device has a namespace and ufile is tied to a ib_device, can we ever
> > have a situation where the ib_device has a different namespace than the
> > ufile's? This would mean we changed the namespace of the ib_device, and
> > IIRC, that means we revoked/disassociated the ufile? So the answer is no?
> > This means #4 and #5 are the same thing.
> >
> Right.
>  
> > Can a uobject affiliated netdev have a different namespace than the
> > ib_device? 
> When a uobject when created, it is not affiliated to netdev.

I'm asking about when it does have a netdev. When you create/modify a
QP and give it a gid index, for instance.

> > The netdevs arise from the gid table, and the gid table population
> > should strictly follow the ib_device namespace, yes?

> I wish it this way, but unfortunately, rdma still have ancient
> shared mode for example single rdma device + macvlan.  Until that is
> deprecated, let the gid table entry's netdev drives the QP modify as
> done today.

I have been ignoring shared mode in all of this analysis. I don't
think you can make sane statements about container security in shared
mode.

> > Can current have a different namespace than the ib_device? I guess yes, the
> > FD can be passed around. However this would mean that the FD caller should
> > not be able to get any gid table handles as none of its ifindexes will work. So
> > #1 is != #3/#4/#5
> 
> Well, it can pass the fd after the ifindex is resolved (i.e. after modify_qp).
> If fd is passed before modify qp in different net ns, its can get access too because rdma device got shared.

That's all fine. The uobject retains its affiliated netdev.

> But that is the case with raw socket too.  The difference is, every
> send() call checks the ifindex, vs here its checked when raw qp is
> created.

Also I think fine

> We can add the additional check in the sysfs and in modify qp, but
> very long ago (2019), we envisioned that users should use only the
> exclusive mode.  And hence, those checks were not added.

I think we should ignore shared mode, it doesn't work sanely with
namespaces.

> > What other NS users are there?

> Incoming rx IB mad packets are looked up in the GID's attached netdev's net ns.

Ultimately a GID index should not be delivered to a userspace that
does not have that GID index in the objects affiliated net namespace.
I wonder if we are missing some validation here

> In-kernel ulps (nfs, smc) do not seem to have the interest, but they
> do not created uobjects nor they access any uverbs fd.

IIRC we have open issues with NFS/SRP/etc and namespaces, the kernel
ULP doesn't have a way to use a namespace?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-24 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-13  5:08 [PATCH] RDMA/uverbs: Consider capability of the process that opens the file Parav Pandit
2025-03-17 19:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18  3:43   ` Parav Pandit
2025-03-18 11:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18 12:30       ` Parav Pandit
2025-03-18 12:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18 20:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-03-18 22:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 14:53           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-04 15:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-06 14:15               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-07 11:16                 ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-07 14:46                   ` sergeh
2025-04-20 12:30                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-20 13:41                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-20 17:31                         ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-07 16:12                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-08 14:44                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-21  3:13             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-21 11:04               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-21 13:00                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-21 13:33                   ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-21 17:22                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-22 12:46                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-22 13:14                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-22 16:11                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-22 16:29                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-23 12:41                               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-23 14:46                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-23 15:43                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-23 15:56                                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-23 16:45                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-24  9:08                                         ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-24 14:13                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-04-25 13:14                                             ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 13:29                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 13:54                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 14:06                                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 15:05                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:29                                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 13:59                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 14:01                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 14:24                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 15:06                                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 15:27                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:46                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 16:16                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:32                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 16:21                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 17:34                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 18:20                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 18:35                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-27 14:30                                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-28 17:03                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-29  3:56                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-29 10:39                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-30  3:34                                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-30 12:14                                                                   ` Parav Pandit

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