From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Max Kellermann <max.kellermann@ionos.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
morgan@kernel.org, Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] exec: Correct the permission check for unsafe exec
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 13:20:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <202505201319.D57FDCB2A@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wmagnnhq.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:29:21PM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Jann Horn <jannh@google.com> writes:
>
> > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 5:26 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> >> Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> writes:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 11:24:47AM -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> >> I have condensed the logic from Linux-2.4.0-test12 to just:
> >> >> id_changed = !uid_eq(new->euid, old->euid) || !in_group_p(new->egid);
> >> >>
> >> >> This change is userspace visible, but I don't expect anyone to care.
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> -static inline bool __is_setuid(struct cred *new, const struct cred *old)
> >> >> -{ return !uid_eq(new->euid, old->uid); }
> >> >> -
> >> >> -static inline bool __is_setgid(struct cred *new, const struct cred *old)
> >> >> -{ return !gid_eq(new->egid, old->gid); }
> >> >> -
> >> >> [...]
> >> >> - is_setid = __is_setuid(new, old) || __is_setgid(new, old);
> >> >> + id_changed = !uid_eq(new->euid, old->euid) || !in_group_p(new->egid);
> >> >
> >> > The core change here is testing for differing euid rather than
> >> > mismatched uid/euid. (And checking for egid in the set of all groups.)
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> For what the code is trying to do I can't fathom what was trying to
> >> be accomplished by the "mismatched" uid/euid check.
> >
> > I remember that when I was looking at this code years ago, one case I
> > was interested in was what happens when a setuid process (running with
> > something like euid=1000,ruid=0) execve()'s a normal binary. Clearly
> > the LSM_UNSAFE_* stuff is not so interesting there, because we're
> > already coming from a privileged context; but the behavior of
> > bprm->secureexec could be important.
> >
> > Like, I think currently a setuid binary like this is probably (?) not
> > exploitable:
> >
> > int main(void) {
> > execl("/bin/echo", "echo", "hello world");
> > }
> >
> > but after your proposed change, I think it might (?) become
> > exploitable because "echo" would not have AT_SECURE set (I think?) and
> > would therefore load libraries based on environment variables?
>
> Yes. bprm->secureexec controls AT_SECURE.
>
> I am fine if we want to set secureexec and AT_SECURE in this situation.
> It is a bit odd, but I don't see a problem with that.
So the idea would be that uid/euid mismatch would still induce AT_SECURE?
That seems reasonable.
I was already waiting for the after the coming merge window to put this
into -next, so if you cant update it for the AT_SECURE logic, we can
give that a try and see what we get.
Thanks!
-Kees
--
Kees Cook
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-20 20:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-06 8:26 [PATCH] security/commoncap: don't assume "setid" if all ids are identical Max Kellermann
2025-03-07 10:32 ` kernel test robot
2025-03-09 15:19 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-28 11:43 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-06 13:21 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-05-06 14:51 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-07 3:16 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2025-05-07 6:33 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 3:32 ` Andrew G. Morgan
2025-05-08 6:38 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 8:37 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 17:50 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-08 22:12 ` sergeh
2025-05-09 6:15 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 14:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-09 16:53 ` Max Kellermann
2025-05-09 20:17 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-05-09 18:41 ` [PATCH] Documentation/no_new_privs.rst: document dropping effective ids Max Kellermann
2025-05-15 16:24 ` [PATCH] exec: Correct the permission check for unsafe exec Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-15 22:09 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-16 15:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-16 18:06 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-16 18:08 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-16 21:46 ` sergeh
2025-05-20 22:38 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-20 22:43 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-16 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-20 20:20 ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-05-20 22:13 ` [PATCH v2] " Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-20 22:35 ` Kees Cook
2025-05-20 23:53 ` Jann Horn
2025-05-21 15:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-05-21 15:36 ` Jann Horn
2025-06-11 0:18 ` Paul Moore
2025-06-11 14:23 ` Max Kellermann
2025-06-13 15:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-06-12 21:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-06-13 1:48 ` Kees Cook
2025-06-13 15:28 ` Paul Moore
2025-06-16 19:57 ` Kees Cook
2025-06-16 20:16 ` Paul Moore
2025-05-16 21:48 ` [PATCH] " sergeh
2025-05-16 21:49 ` sergeh
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