From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Stephan Mueller <smueller@chronox.de>,
Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Ignat Korchagin <ignat@cloudflare.com>,
Clemens Lang <cllang@redhat.com>,
David Bohannon <dbohanno@redhat.com>,
Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Module signing and post-quantum crypto public key algorithms
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:04:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250613170456.GA1284@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501216.1749826470@warthog.procyon.org.uk>
On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 03:54:30PM +0100, David Howells wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So we need to do something about the impending quantum-related obsolescence of
> the RSA signatures that we use for module signing, kexec, BPF signing, IMA and
> a bunch of other things.
>
> From my point of view, the simplest way would be to implement key verification
> in the kernel for one (or more) of the available post-quantum algorithms (of
> which there are at least three), driving this with appropriate changes to the
> X.509 certificate to indicate that's what we want to use.
>
> The good news is that Stephan Mueller has an implemementation that includes
> kernel bits that we can use, or, at least, adapt:
>
> https://github.com/smuellerDD/leancrypto/
>
> Note that we only need the signature verification bits. One question, though:
> he's done it as a standalone "leancrypto" module, not integrated into crypto/,
> but should it be integrated into crypto/ or is the standalone fine?
The proper place for crypto algorithm implementations, both new and existing, is
lib/crypto/. crypto/ should contain only the compatibility code to integrate
the algorithm implementations into the generic APIs like crypto_akcipher, *if*
it's needed.
ML-DSA a.k.a. Dilithium support is fairly low on my priority list at the moment,
so if someone really wants it soon they would need to drive that effort.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-13 17:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-13 14:54 Module signing and post-quantum crypto public key algorithms David Howells
2025-06-13 15:21 ` Ignat Korchagin
2025-06-13 15:42 ` David Howells
2025-06-13 17:33 ` Simo Sorce
2025-06-13 17:50 ` James Bottomley
2025-06-13 17:55 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-06-16 14:02 ` Simo Sorce
2025-06-16 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2025-06-16 17:27 ` Simo Sorce
2025-06-19 18:49 ` Stefan Berger
2025-11-07 10:03 ` David Howells
2025-11-07 10:23 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-11-07 19:19 ` Stefan Berger
2025-11-07 23:10 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2025-11-08 7:46 ` David Howells
2025-11-09 19:30 ` Elliott, Robert (Servers)
2025-11-11 16:14 ` Simo Sorce
2025-11-11 18:38 ` David Howells
2025-06-13 15:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-06-13 16:13 ` James Bottomley
2025-06-13 16:32 ` Roberto Sassu
2025-06-13 16:34 ` Stephan Mueller
2025-06-13 17:04 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-06-19 12:31 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-06-19 23:22 ` Herbert Xu
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