From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: adding CAP_RESERVED_# bits
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 22:40:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250628034055.GA94340@mail.hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA25o9QqmFGA1AsxK+5jds80uDV-3=BtM7kH0WgU=k+DEuxaiA@mail.gmail.com>
Sorry... why not just request a real capability bit be reserved?
Ok, I see at https://lore.kernel.org/all/?q=Luigi%20Semenzato%20capability
that Casey was suitably cautious. However, I'd say if we end up needing to do
the painful transition to 128bit caps, we should face that, rather than
make people do ugly hacks.
-serge
On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 01:26:54PM -0700, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
> Sorry for the delay in responding, and thank you so much for
> clarifying the Linux priorities.
>
> For our project we ended up hijacking an existing bit which we're
> comfortably sure we won't need for that binary (or any binary,
> really), plus a seccomp filter. It's a total hack, but a simple one,
> and it beats the alternatives.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 7:11 PM Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 1:58 PM Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Recently I inquired about the decision process for adding a CAP_DRM
> > > bit to capability.h (to become DRM master). It occurred to me that
> > > the process for adding ANY bit would be fraught with controversies (to
> > > say the least).
> > >
> > > So I looked into maintaining a patch in our own kernel sources, but
> > > that was surprisingly messy due to the build-time dependencies of
> > > capability.h and the way we maintain and share sources internally for
> > > multiple kernel versions. This would have been quite simple if there
> > > were a few reserved bits, such as CAP_RESERVED_0, ..,
> > > CAP_RESERVED_<N-1> with, say, N=3.
> > >
> > > Would this also be controversial?
> >
> > Yes, and likely rejected too. The upstream Linux kernel generally
> > doesn't make any sacrifices to support out-of-tree kernel code, and
> > giving up precious capability bitmap space would definitely be
> > considered a sacrifice.
> >
> > --
> > paul-moore.com
prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-28 3:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-06 17:57 adding CAP_RESERVED_# bits Luigi Semenzato
2025-06-06 18:32 ` Casey Schaufler
2025-06-06 20:11 ` Luigi Semenzato
2025-06-06 20:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2025-06-06 21:49 ` Luigi Semenzato
2025-06-07 2:11 ` Paul Moore
2025-06-27 20:26 ` Luigi Semenzato
2025-06-28 3:40 ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
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