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From: Junxiao Bi <junxiao.bi@oracle.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Cc: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, jmorris@namei.org,
	serge@hallyn.com, nathanl@linux.ibm.com, joe.jin@oracle.com,
	Eric <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	axboe@kernel.dk
Subject: Re: Semantics of blktrace with lockdown (integrity) enabled kernel.
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:31:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22a584ab-db2b-813c-6f48-3840f56ee6cf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhSiviD9uHmB5sK4vgBBYnhUBPFyu+zM+O2m4ycie3RVqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/10/23 3:00 PM, Paul Moore wrote:

>>> Well, you could always submit a patch* and we would review it like any
>>> other; that's usually a much better approach.
>>>
>>> * Yes, there was a patch submitted, but it was against a distro kernel
>>> that diverged significantly from the upstream kernel in the relevant
>>> areas.
>> Sure, i will submit a new one.
>>
>> Before that, may i ask this question? It may affect the approach of the
>> patch.
>>
>> Lockdown blocked files with mmap operation even that files are
>> read-only, may i know what's the security concern there?
>>
>> static int debugfs_locked_down(struct inode *inode,
>>                      struct file *filp,
>>                      const struct file_operations *real_fops)
>> {
>>       if ((inode->i_mode & 07777 & ~0444) == 0 &&
>>           !(filp->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE) &&
>>           !real_fops->unlocked_ioctl &&
>>           !real_fops->compat_ioctl &&
>>           !real_fops->mmap)
>>           return 0;
>>
>>       if (security_locked_down(LOCKDOWN_DEBUGFS))
>>           return -EPERM;
>>
>>       return 0;
>> }
> I think the comment block at the top of that function describes it well:
>
> /*
>   * Only permit access to world-readable files when the kernel is locked down.
>   * We also need to exclude any file that has ways to write or alter it as root
>   * can bypass the permissions check.
>   */

I may have some misunderstanding of  commit 5496197f9b08("debugfs: 
Restrict debugfs when the kernel is locked down"),  it mentioned chmod 
is disabled for debugfs file, so i thought permission of debugfs file 
can not be changed. Actually I just tested that, the permission can be 
changed! I am not sure whether this is an issue or not. Anyway i 
understand the security concern with mmap, thanks a lot.

Thanks,

Junxiao.

>
> --
> paul-moore.com

      reply	other threads:[~2023-04-10 22:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 17:37 Semantics of blktrace with lockdown (integrity) enabled kernel Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2023-04-06 18:39 ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 19:30   ` Junxiao Bi
2023-04-06 21:30     ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 19:32   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2023-04-06 21:43     ` Paul Moore
2023-04-10 19:19       ` Junxiao Bi
2023-04-10 20:22         ` Paul Moore
2023-04-10 21:28           ` Junxiao Bi
2023-04-10 21:44             ` Paul Moore
2023-04-10 21:51               ` Junxiao Bi
2023-04-10 22:00                 ` Paul Moore
2023-04-10 22:31                   ` Junxiao Bi [this message]

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