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From: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com,
	paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
	stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com, eparis@parisplace.org,
	xieyongji@bytedance.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	david.marchand@redhat.com, lulu@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] vduse: Add LSM hooks to check Virtio device type
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 11:49:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7524dee3-7c48-4864-8182-1b166b0f6faa@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64626db9-e37a-4c65-a455-fc3985382216@schaufler-ca.com>



On 10/23/23 17:13, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> On 10/23/2023 12:28 AM, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/21/23 00:20, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>>> On 10/20/2023 8:58 AM, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
>>>> This patch introduces LSM hooks for devices creation,
>>>> destruction and opening operations, checking the
>>>> application is allowed to perform these operations for
>>>> the Virtio device type.
>>>
>>> Why do you think that there needs to be a special LSM check for virtio
>>> devices? What can't existing device attributes be used?
>>
>> Michael asked for a way for SELinux to allow/prevent the creation of
>> some types of devices [0].
>>
>> A device is created using ioctl() on VDUSE control chardev. Its type is
>> specified via a field in the structure passed in argument.
>>
>> I didn't see other way than adding dedicated LSM hooks to achieve this,
>> but it is possible that their is a better way to do it?
> 
> At the very least the hook should be made more general, and I'd have to
> see a proposal before commenting on that. security_dev_destroy(dev) might
> be a better approach. If there's reason to control destruction of vduse
> devices it's reasonable to assume that there are other devices with the
> same or similar properties.

VDUSE is different from other devices as the device is actually
implemented by the user-space application, so this is very specific in
my opinion.

> 
> Since SELinux is your target use case, can you explain why you can't
> create SELinux policy to enforce the restrictions you're after? I believe
> (but can be proven wrong, of course) that SELinux has mechanism for dealing
> with controls on ioctls.
> 

I am not aware of such mechanism to deal with ioctl(), if you have a 
pointer that would be welcome.

Thanks,
Maxime

> 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Maxime
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230829130430-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org/
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-20 15:58 [PATCH v4 0/4] vduse: add support for networking devices Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] vduse: validate block features only with block devices Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 22:07   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-23  7:35     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] vduse: enable Virtio-net device type Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] vduse: Temporarily disable control queue features Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-23  3:08   ` Jason Wang
2023-10-23  7:43     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 15:58 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] vduse: Add LSM hooks to check Virtio device type Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-20 22:20   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-23  7:28     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-10-23 15:13       ` Casey Schaufler
2023-10-24  9:49         ` Maxime Coquelin [this message]
2023-10-24 15:30           ` Casey Schaufler
2023-11-02 17:56             ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-11-02 18:59               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-11-03  7:55                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-11-03  8:04                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-10-23  3:09   ` Jason Wang
2023-11-08  2:31   ` Paul Moore
2023-12-08 11:01     ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-12-08 11:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-08 12:23         ` Maxime Coquelin
2023-12-08 12:26           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-12-08 12:59             ` Maxime Coquelin

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