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From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] ima: Suspend PCR extends and log appends when rebooting
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2024 07:33:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e66377e-38d6-4885-acb6-e9a72573a697@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e72ec14c-1593-410f-a4ed-a5583b36fc7c@linux.ibm.com>



On 11/12/24 9:28 PM, Stefan Berger wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/12/24 6:42 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
>> On Tue, 2024-11-12 at 11:52 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>> To avoid the following types of error messages due to a failure by 
>>> the TPM
>>> driver to use the TPM, suspend TPM PCR extensions and the appending of
>>> entries to the IMA log once IMA's reboot notifier has been called. This
>>> avoids trying to use the TPM after the TPM subsystem has been shut down.
>>>
>>> [111707.685315][    T1] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip, result: 
>>> -19
>>> [111707.685960][    T1] ima: Error Communicating to TPM chip, result: 
>>> -19
>>>
>>> This error could be observed on a ppc64 machine running SuSE Linux where
>>> processes are still accessing files after devices have been shut down.
>>>
>>> Suspending the IMA log and PCR extensions shortly before reboot does not
>>> seem to open a significant measurement gap since neither TPM quoting 
>>> would
>>> work for attestation nor that new log entries could be written to 
>>> anywhere
>>> after devices have been shut down. However, there's a time window 
>>> between
>>> the invocation of the reboot notifier and the shutdown of devices in
>>> kernel_restart_prepare() where __usermodehelper_disable() waits for all
>>> running_helpers to exit. During this time window IMA could now miss log
>>> entries even though attestation would still work. The reboot of the 
>>> system
>>> shortly after may make this small gap insignificant.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Tushar Sugandhi <tusharsu@linux.microsoft.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>
>>
>> Thanks, Stefan.  The patch looks good.  Based on the updated patch 
>> description,
>> I'm wondering if we should be testing the "system_state" instead of 
>> registering
>> a reboot notifier?
> 
> That's a possibility and would definitely be less code. I don't see why 
> not...
> 
... the missing synchronization with the mutex speaks against it. If we 
don't have it we could try to use the TPM subsystem after it's been shut 
down.

      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-13 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-12 16:52 [PATCH v2] ima: Suspend PCR extends and log appends when rebooting Stefan Berger
2024-11-12 17:59 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-11-12 23:42 ` Mimi Zohar
2024-11-13  2:28   ` Stefan Berger
2024-11-13 12:33     ` Stefan Berger [this message]

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