From: Blaise Boscaccy <bboscaccy@linux.microsoft.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
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Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
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selinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] security: Propagate universal pointer data in bpf hooks
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:21:30 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87plj4jyv9.fsf@microsoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQJWMBRspP-srQwe8_B1smGG1hs3kVbpeiuYo-0mLWAnUA@mail.gmail.com>
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 11:06 PM Song Liu <song@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 4:31 PM Blaise Boscaccy
>> <bboscaccy@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Certain bpf syscall subcommands are available for usage from both
>> > userspace and the kernel. LSM modules or eBPF gatekeeper programs may
>> > need to take a different course of action depending on whether or not
>> > a BPF syscall originated from the kernel or userspace.
>> >
>> > Additionally, some of the bpf_attr struct fields contain pointers to
>> > arbitrary memory. Currently the functionality to determine whether or
>> > not a pointer refers to kernel memory or userspace memory is exposed
>> > to the bpf verifier, but that information is missing from various LSM
>> > hooks.
>> >
>> > Here we augment the LSM hooks to provide this data, by simply passing
>> > the corresponding universal pointer in any hook that contains already
>> > contains a bpf_attr struct that corresponds to a subcommand that may
>> > be called from the kernel.
>>
>> I think this information is useful for LSM hooks.
>>
>> Question: Do we need a full bpfptr_t for these hooks, or just a boolean
>> "is_kernel or not"?
>
> +1
> Just passing the bool should do.
> Passing uattr is a footgun. Last thing we need is to open up TOCTOU concerns.
Sounds good to me, I'll rework it to use a bool instead.
-blaise
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-26 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-26 0:30 [PATCH 0/1] security: Propagate universal pointer data in bpf hooks Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26 0:30 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26 7:06 ` Song Liu
2025-02-26 15:57 ` Paul Moore
2025-02-26 19:40 ` Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26 16:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 19:21 ` Blaise Boscaccy [this message]
2025-02-26 22:02 ` Song Liu
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