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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, miklos@szeredi.hu,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Ignaz Forster <iforster@suse.de>, Petr Vorel <pvorel@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after writes
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 08:18:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9aced306f134628221c55530643535b89874ccc0.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxi7PFPPUuW9CZAZB9tvU2GWVpmpdBt=EUYyw60K=WX-Yg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, 2023-05-20 at 12:15 +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:42 PM Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2023-04-07 at 10:31 +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > So, I think we want both; we want the ovl_copyattr() and the
> > > vfs_getattr_nosec() change:
> > >
> > > (1) overlayfs should copy up the inode version in ovl_copyattr(). That
> > >     is in line what we do with all other inode attributes. IOW, the
> > >     overlayfs inode's i_version counter should aim to mirror the
> > >     relevant layer's i_version counter. I wouldn't know why that
> > >     shouldn't be the case. Asking the other way around there doesn't
> > >     seem to be any use for overlayfs inodes to have an i_version that
> > >     isn't just mirroring the relevant layer's i_version.
> > > (2) Jeff's changes for ima to make it rely on vfs_getattr_nosec().
> > >     Currently, ima assumes that it will get the correct i_version from
> > >     an inode but that just doesn't hold for stacking filesystem.
> > >
> > > While (1) would likely just fix the immediate bug (2) is correct and
> > > _robust_. If we change how attributes are handled vfs_*() helpers will
> > > get updated and ima with it. Poking at raw inodes without using
> > > appropriate helpers is much more likely to get ima into trouble.
> >
> > In addition to properly setting the i_version for IMA, EVM has a
> > similar issue with i_generation and s_uuid. Adding them to
> > ovl_copyattr() seems to resolve it.   Does that make sense?
> >
> > diff --git a/fs/overlayfs/util.c b/fs/overlayfs/util.c
> > index 923d66d131c1..cd0aeb828868 100644
> > --- a/fs/overlayfs/util.c
> > +++ b/fs/overlayfs/util.c
> > @@ -1118,5 +1118,8 @@ void ovl_copyattr(struct inode *inode)
> >         inode->i_atime = realinode->i_atime;
> >         inode->i_mtime = realinode->i_mtime;
> >         inode->i_ctime = realinode->i_ctime;
> > +       inode->i_generation = realinode->i_generation;
> > +       if (inode->i_sb)
> > +               uuid_copy(&inode->i_sb->s_uuid, &realinode->i_sb-
> > >s_uuid);
> 
> That is not a possible solution Mimi.
> 
> The i_gneration copy *may* be acceptable in "all layers on same fs"
> setup, but changing overlayfs s_uuid over and over is a non-starter.
> 
> If you explain the problem, I may be able to help you find a better solution.

EVM calculates an HMAC of the file metadata (security xattrs, i_ino,
i_generation, i_uid, i_gid, i_mode, s_uuid)  and stores it as
security.evm.  Notrmally this would be used for mutable files, which
cannot be signed.  The i_generation and s_uuid on the lower layer and
the overlay are not the same, causing the EVM HMAC verification to
fail.

-- 
thanks,

Mimi


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-22 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-05 17:14 [PATCH] overlayfs: Trigger file re-evaluation by IMA / EVM after writes Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 10:26 ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-06 14:05   ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 14:20     ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 14:36       ` Paul Moore
2023-04-06 15:01         ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-06 18:46           ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 19:11             ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 19:37               ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 20:22                 ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 21:24                   ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 21:58                     ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-06 22:09                       ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 22:04                     ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-06 22:27                       ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-07  8:31                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-07 13:29                         ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-09 15:22                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-09 22:12                             ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-11  8:38                               ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-11  9:32                                 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-11  9:49                                   ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-11 10:13                                     ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-11 14:08                                       ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-21 14:55                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-04-17  1:57                           ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-17  8:11                             ` Christian Brauner
2023-04-17 10:05                             ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-17 12:45                               ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-17 13:18                                 ` Jeff Layton
2023-04-21 14:43                           ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-18 20:46                             ` Paul Moore
2023-05-18 20:50                               ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-19 14:58                                 ` Paul Moore
2023-05-25 14:43                                   ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-19 19:42                         ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-20  9:15                           ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-22 12:18                             ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
2023-05-22 14:00                               ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-23 19:38                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2023-05-20  9:17                           ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-21 22:49                             ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-23 17:35                               ` Mimi Zohar
2023-04-17 14:07                       ` Stefan Berger
2023-04-07  6:42                   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-06 16:10         ` Stefan Berger

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