From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns()
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2022 17:51:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAADnVQJcvwb_5dY-FomsDzJWZQG_5EWLmjBFJYNqomd0f9XO+w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHC9VhRkHuwjrtOoK+vn9zzERU2TM_2PEbQGRAZsr-D1pFv9GQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 3:40 PM Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 5:41 PM Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
> > Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com> writes:
> > >
> > > What level of due diligence would satisfy you Eric?
> >
> > Having a real conversation about what a change is doing and to talk
> > about it's merits and it's pro's and cons. I can't promise I would be
> > convinced but that is the kind of conversation it would take.
>
> Earlier today you talked about due diligence to ensure that userspace
> won't break and I provided my reasoning on why userspace would not
> break (at least not because of this change). Userspace might be
> blocked from creating a new user namespace due to a security policy,
> but that would be the expected and desired outcome, not breakage. As
> far as your most recent comment regarding merit and pros/cons, I
> believe we have had that discussion (quite a few times already); it
> just seems you are not satisfied with the majority's conclusion.
>
> Personally, I'm not sure there is anything more I can do to convince
> you that this patchset is reasonable; I'm going to leave it to others
> at this point, or we can all simply agree to disagree for the moment.
> Just as you haven't heard a compelling argument for this patchset, I
> haven't heard a compelling argument against it. Barring some
> significant new discussion point, or opinion, I still plan on merging
> this into the LSM next branch when the merge window closes next week
> so it has time to go through a full round of linux-next testing.
> Assuming no unresolvable problems are found during the additional
> testing I plan to send it to Linus during the v6.1 merge window and
> I'm guessing we will get to go through this all again. It's less than
> ideal, but I think this is where we are at right now.
+1
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-10 0:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-01 18:01 [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns() Frederick Lawler
2022-08-01 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] security, lsm: " Frederick Lawler
2022-08-02 21:47 ` KP Singh
2022-08-03 13:13 ` Frederick Lawler
2022-08-01 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] bpf-lsm: Make bpf_lsm_userns_create() sleepable Frederick Lawler
2022-08-01 23:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-08-01 23:06 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-02 21:29 ` KP Singh
2022-08-01 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] selftests/bpf: Add tests verifying bpf lsm userns_create hook Frederick Lawler
2022-08-02 22:08 ` KP Singh
2022-08-01 18:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] selinux: Implement " Frederick Lawler
2022-08-02 2:56 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Introduce security_create_user_ns() Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-03 2:10 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-08 18:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-08 19:16 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-08 19:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-08 19:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-08 22:47 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-09 16:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-09 16:47 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-09 21:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-09 22:40 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-10 0:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2022-08-09 17:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2022-08-09 21:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-08 19:49 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-09 16:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2022-08-14 15:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2022-08-15 2:32 ` Paul Moore
2022-08-15 15:41 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2022-08-15 16:24 ` Paul Moore
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