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From: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	serge@hallyn.com, paul@paul-moore.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] vfs: avoid duplicating creds in faccessat if possible
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 19:22:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGudoHFhnJ1z-81FKYpzfDmvcWFeHNkKGdr00CkuH5WJa2FAMQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZADoeOiJs6BRLUSd@ZenIV>

On 3/2/23, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 07:14:24PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
>> On 3/2/23, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:30 AM Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Fwiw, as long as you, Al, and others are fine with it and I'm aware of
>> >> it I'm happy to pick up more stuff like this. I've done it before and
>> >> have worked in this area so I'm happy to help with some of the load.
>> >
>> > Yeah, that would work. We've actually had discussions of vfs
>> > maintenance in general.
>> >
>> > In this case it really wasn't an issue, with this being just two
>> > fairly straightforward patches for code that I was familiar with.
>> >
>>
>> Well on that note I intend to write a patch which would add a flag to
>> the dentry cache.
>>
>> There is this thing named CONFIG_INIT_ON_ALLOC_DEFAULT_ON which is
>> enabled at least on debian, ubuntu and arch. It results in mandatory
>> memset on the obj before it gets returned from kmalloc, for hardening
>> purposes.
>>
>> Now the problem is that dentry cache allocates bufs 4096 bytes in
>> size, so this is an equivalent of a clear_page call and it happens
>> *every time* there is a path lookup.
>
> Huh?  Quite a few path lookups don't end up allocating any dentries;
> what exactly are you talking about?
>

Ops, I meant "names_cache", here:
	names_cachep = kmem_cache_create_usercopy("names_cache", PATH_MAX, 0,
			SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN|SLAB_PANIC, 0, PATH_MAX, NULL);

it is fs/dcache.c and I brainfarted into the above.

>> Given how dentry cache is used, I'm confident there is 0 hardening
>> benefit for it.
>>
>> So the plan would be to add a flag on cache creation to exempt it from
>> the mandatory memset treatment and use it with dentry.
>>
>> I don't have numbers handy but as you can imagine it gave me a nice bump
>> :)
>>
>> Whatever you think about the idea aside, the q is: can something like
>> the above go in without Al approving it?
>
> That one I would really like to take a look at.
>

allright

-- 
Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik gmail.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-02 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25 15:55 [PATCH v3 1/2] capability: add cap_isidentical Mateusz Guzik
2023-01-25 15:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] vfs: avoid duplicating creds in faccessat if possible Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28  0:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02  8:30     ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-02 17:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 18:14         ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 18:18           ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 18:22             ` Mateusz Guzik [this message]
2023-03-02 18:43               ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 18:51                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 19:02                 ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 19:18                   ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 19:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 19:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 19:19                   ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 19:54                     ` Kees Cook
2023-03-02 20:11                       ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 15:30                         ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-03-03 17:39                           ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 17:54                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 19:37                               ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 19:38                                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 20:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 20:39                                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 20:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 21:09                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 19:01                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 20:31                                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 20:48                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-05 17:23                                             ` David Laight
2023-03-04  1:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04  3:25                                       ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04  3:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04  5:51                                           ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 16:41                                             ` David Vernet
2023-03-04 19:02                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 19:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 20:34                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 20:51                                               ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 21:01                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 21:03                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 21:10                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 23:08                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 23:52                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                       ` <CA+icZUUH-J3eh=PSEcaHRDtcKB9svA2Qct6RiOq_MFP_+KeBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-03-05 18:17                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-05 18:43                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-06  5:43                                                       ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 20:18                                     ` Al Viro
2023-03-04 20:42                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 19:38                   ` Kees Cook
2023-03-02 19:48                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-02 18:41             ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 14:49         ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-02 18:11       ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 14:27         ` Christian Brauner
2023-02-28  1:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] capability: add cap_isidentical Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28  2:46   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-02-28 14:47     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28 19:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 21:21           ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28 21:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-01 18:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 17:32     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2023-02-28 17:52       ` Casey Schaufler

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