From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: SGX vs LSM (Re: [PATCH v20 00/28] Intel SGX1 support)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 14:37:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrVS15kAsD9mko9sreyZ8uciiOfOpnMabcQr4_3jE-npNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190603205405.GE4894@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 1:54 PM Jarkko Sakkinen
<jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:14:10AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > What is the "source file" i.e. the target of the check? Enclave file,
> > > sigstruct file, or /dev/sgx/enclave?
> >
> > Enclave file -- that is, the file backing the vma from which the data
> > is loaded.
>
> Wonder why KVM gets away without having this given that enclaves are
> lot alike VMs.
>
I would argue it's because access to /dev/kvm means you can execute
whatever you code you want in a VM. I don't see how this is
avoidable. On the other hand, it would be nice for SGX to not imply
this same sort of "execute anything" right, especially since, unlike
KVM, SGX is not a sandbox.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-03 21:47 UTC|newest]
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2019-05-15 18:27 ` SGX vs LSM (Re: [PATCH v20 00/28] Intel SGX1 support) Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-15 19:58 ` James Morris
2019-05-15 20:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-15 22:46 ` James Morris
2019-05-15 23:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 3:03 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-16 4:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 22:23 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-17 0:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 1:06 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-17 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 16:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 13:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 15:09 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 16:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 16:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 16:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 18:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 19:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 19:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 20:09 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 20:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 20:34 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 21:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 17:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 17:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:50 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:16 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-17 17:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 17:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-17 18:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-17 18:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 18:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 7:24 ` James Morris
2019-05-16 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-20 9:38 ` Dr. Greg
2019-05-15 21:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-16 1:19 ` Haitao Huang
2019-05-16 5:16 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-16 21:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-16 22:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-16 23:29 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-20 11:29 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:33 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-17 0:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-17 0:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-17 15:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-20 11:42 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:41 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:19 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:24 ` Jethro Beekman
2019-05-22 13:10 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-21 15:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-22 13:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-22 13:22 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-22 13:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-22 15:38 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-22 22:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-23 2:35 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-23 10:26 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 14:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-23 15:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-23 23:40 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 1:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 7:24 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 15:41 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-24 16:57 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 17:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 17:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:54 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 18:34 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 19:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 19:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 20:42 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 21:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 19:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 20:03 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 20:58 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-24 21:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 22:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 23:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-25 22:40 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-26 0:57 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-26 6:09 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-28 20:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-28 20:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-28 21:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30 5:38 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 17:21 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-29 14:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30 6:12 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 14:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30 14:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 15:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-30 16:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 18:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30 19:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 21:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-30 21:23 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-30 21:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-03 9:12 ` Dr. Greg
2019-06-03 21:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-30 21:48 ` Xing, Cedric
2019-05-30 22:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-03 21:05 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 20:54 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 21:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-06-04 11:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 21:37 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2019-06-03 20:47 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-06-03 20:43 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-25 17:31 ` Dr. Greg
2019-05-24 16:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 17:07 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-24 17:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-24 14:44 ` Stephen Smalley
2019-05-27 13:48 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 19:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2019-05-27 13:34 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-27 13:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 8:10 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-23 8:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2019-05-20 11:36 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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