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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Mateusz Guzik <mjguzik@gmail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	serge@hallyn.com, paul@paul-moore.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/2] vfs: avoid duplicating creds in faccessat if possible
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 19:18:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAD2gEQA6edzMJvl@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZADysodnEPRqhKqc@ZenIV>

On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 07:02:10PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 06:43:39PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 07:22:17PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote:
> > 
> > > Ops, I meant "names_cache", here:
> > > 	names_cachep = kmem_cache_create_usercopy("names_cache", PATH_MAX, 0,
> > > 			SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN|SLAB_PANIC, 0, PATH_MAX, NULL);
> > > 
> > > it is fs/dcache.c and I brainfarted into the above.
> > 
> > So you mean __getname() stuff?
> 
> The thing is, getname_flags()/getname_kernel() is not the only user of that
> thing; grep and you'll see (and keep in mind that cifs alloc_dentry_path()
> is a __getname() wrapper, with its own callers).  We might have bugs papered
> over^W^Whardened away^W^Wpapered over in some of those users.
> 
> I agree that getname_flags()/getname_kernel()/sys_getcwd() have no need of
> pre-zeroing; fw_get_filesystem_firmware(), ceph_mdsc_build_path(),
> [hostfs]dentry_name() and ima_d_path() seem to be safe.  So's
> vboxsf_path_from_dentry() (I think).  But with this bunch I'd need
> a review before I'd be willing to say "this security theatre buys us
> nothing here":

[snip the list]

PS: ripping this bandaid off might very well be the right thing to do, it's just
that "I'm confident there is 0 hardening benefit for it" needs a code review
is some moderately grotty places.  It's not too awful (e.g. in case of cifs
most of the callers are immediately followed by build_path_from_dentry(), which
stores the pathname in the end of page and returns the pointer to beginning
of initialized part; verifying that after that allocation + build_path we
only access the parts past the returned pointer until it's time to free the
buffer is not hard), but it's worth doing.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-02 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-25 15:55 [PATCH v3 1/2] capability: add cap_isidentical Mateusz Guzik
2023-01-25 15:55 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] vfs: avoid duplicating creds in faccessat if possible Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28  0:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02  8:30     ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-02 17:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 18:14         ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 18:18           ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 18:22             ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 18:43               ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 18:51                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 19:02                 ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 19:18                   ` Al Viro [this message]
2023-03-02 19:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 19:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-02 19:19                   ` Al Viro
2023-03-02 19:54                     ` Kees Cook
2023-03-02 20:11                       ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 15:30                         ` Alexander Potapenko
2023-03-03 17:39                           ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 17:54                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 19:37                               ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 19:38                                 ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 20:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 20:39                                   ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-03 20:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-03 21:09                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 19:01                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 20:31                                         ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-04 20:48                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-05 17:23                                             ` David Laight
2023-03-04  1:29                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04  3:25                                       ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04  3:42                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04  5:51                                           ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 16:41                                             ` David Vernet
2023-03-04 19:02                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 19:19                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 20:34                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 20:51                                               ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 21:01                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 21:03                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 21:10                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 23:08                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-04 23:52                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                                       ` <CA+icZUUH-J3eh=PSEcaHRDtcKB9svA2Qct6RiOq_MFP_+KeBLQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-03-05 18:17                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-05 18:43                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-06  5:43                                                       ` Yury Norov
2023-03-04 20:18                                     ` Al Viro
2023-03-04 20:42                                       ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-03-02 19:38                   ` Kees Cook
2023-03-02 19:48                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-03-02 18:41             ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 14:49         ` Christian Brauner
2023-03-02 18:11       ` Al Viro
2023-03-03 14:27         ` Christian Brauner
2023-02-28  1:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] capability: add cap_isidentical Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28  2:46   ` Casey Schaufler
2023-02-28 14:47     ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28 19:39       ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 20:48         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 21:21           ` Mateusz Guzik
2023-02-28 21:29             ` Linus Torvalds
2023-03-01 18:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-28 17:32     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2023-02-28 17:52       ` Casey Schaufler

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