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From: "Günther Noack" <gnoack@google.com>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Jeff Xu <jeffxu@google.com>,
	Jorge Lucangeli Obes <jorgelo@chromium.org>,
	Allen Webb <allenwebb@google.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dtor@google.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	Konstantin Meskhidze <konstantin.meskhidze@huawei.com>,
	Matt Bobrowski <repnop@google.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] landlock: Document ioctl support
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 13:55:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZOiWrOFYQdDyOch/@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230818.ShaiGhu3wae9@digikod.net>

Hi!

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 06:28:41PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> This looks good!
> 
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 07:28:16PM +0200, Günther Noack wrote:
> > +IOCTL support
> > +-------------
> > +
> > +The ``LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL`` access right restricts the use of
> > +:manpage:`ioctl(2)`, but it only applies to newly opened files.  This means
> > +specifically that pre-existing file descriptors like STDIN, STDOUT and STDERR
> 
> According to man pages (and unlike IOCTL commands) we should not
> capitalize stdin, stdout and stderr.

Done.

> > +are unaffected.
> > +
> > +Users should be aware that TTY devices have traditionally permitted to control
> > +other processes on the same TTY through the ``TIOCSTI`` and ``TIOCLINUX`` IOCTL
> > +commands.  It is therefore recommended to close inherited TTY file descriptors.
> 
> Good to see such warnings in the documentation.
> 
> We could also propose a simple solution to still uses stdin, stdout and
> stderr without complex TTY proxying: re-opening the TTY, or replacing
> related FD thanks to /proc/self/fd/*
> 
> For instance, with shell scripts it would look like this:
> exec </proc/self/fd/0
> exec >/proc/self/fd/1
> exec 2>/proc/self/fd/2
> 
> Because of TIOCGWINSZ and TCGETS, an interactive shell may not work as
> expected though.

I inserted the phrase

  ..., or to reopen them from ``/proc/self/fd/*`` without the
  ``LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL`` right, if possible.

to hint at that approach.

I added "if possible" there, because there are thorny edge cases that make it
difficult as a general approach -- the open(2) can fail if a stacked Landlock
policy exists.

—Günther

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-25 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-14 17:28 [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] landlock: Add ioctl access right Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:43   ` Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] selftests/landlock: Test ioctl support Günther Noack
2023-08-18 17:06   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 15:51     ` Günther Noack
2023-08-25 17:07       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-01 13:35         ` Günther Noack
2023-09-01 20:24           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] selftests/landlock: Test ioctl with memfds Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] samples/landlock: Add support for LANDLOCK_ACCESS_FS_IOCTL Günther Noack
2023-08-14 17:28 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] landlock: Document ioctl support Günther Noack
2023-08-18 16:28   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 11:55     ` Günther Noack [this message]
2023-08-18 13:26 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-18 13:39 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-25 15:03   ` Günther Noack
2023-08-25 16:50     ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-26 18:26       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-02 11:53         ` Günther Noack
2023-09-04 18:08           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-11 10:02             ` Günther Noack
2023-09-11 15:25               ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-09-11 16:34                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-19 22:09                 ` Günther Noack
2023-10-20 14:57                   ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-10-25 22:07                     ` Günther Noack
2023-10-26 14:55                       ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-11-03 13:06                         ` Günther Noack
2023-11-03 15:12                           ` Mickaël Salaün
2023-08-22 14:39 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Landlock: IOCTL support - TTY restrictions RFC Mickaël Salaün

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