From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
jack@suse.cz, Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 21:58:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZszeUAMgGkGNz8H9@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <egma4j7om4jcrxwpks6odx6wu2jc5q3qdboncwsja32mo4oe7r@qmiviwad32lm>
On Mon 26-08-24 15:39:47, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 10:47:12AM GMT, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> >
> > bch2_new_inode relies on PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM to try to allocate a new
> > inode to achieve GFP_NOWAIT semantic while holding locks. If this
> > allocation fails it will drop locks and use GFP_NOFS allocation context.
> >
> > We would like to drop PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM because it is really
> > dangerous to use if the caller doesn't control the full call chain with
> > this flag set. E.g. if any of the function down the chain needed
> > GFP_NOFAIL request the PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM would override this and
> > cause unexpected failure.
> >
> > While this is not the case in this particular case using the scoped gfp
> > semantic is not really needed bacause we can easily pus the allocation
> > context down the chain without too much clutter.
>
> yeah, eesh, nack.
Sure, you can NAK this but then deal with the lack of the PF flag by
other means. We have made it clear that PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM is not we
are going to support at the MM level.
I have done your homework and shown that it is really easy
to use gfp flags directly. The net result is passing gfp flag down to
two functions. Sure part of it is ugglier by having several different
callbacks implementing it but still manageable. Without too much churn.
So do whatever you like in the bcache code but do not rely on something
that is unsupported by the MM layer which you have sneaked in without an
agreement.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-26 19:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-26 8:47 [PATCH 0/2] get rid of PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 16:48 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:39 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:42 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:44 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 19:58 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-08-26 20:00 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 20:27 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 20:43 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-26 21:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 6:01 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 6:40 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 6:58 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 7:05 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:52 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-26 20:53 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-27 2:23 ` kernel test robot
2024-08-27 6:15 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] " Michal Hocko
2024-08-27 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-08-28 4:09 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 10:02 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 13:12 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 13:22 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 13:32 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-29 14:03 ` Yafang Shao
2024-09-02 0:23 ` Dave Chinner
2024-09-02 1:35 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 8:41 ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 8:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 9:39 ` Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 9:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-09-02 14:07 ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-09-04 18:01 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 20:34 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 21:12 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 21:20 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 21:37 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 22:21 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-20 22:39 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 22:55 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 23:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-20 23:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-11-20 23:57 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 0:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 4:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-21 4:53 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 23:53 ` Shuah Khan
2024-11-22 6:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-22 12:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-11-21 21:32 ` Martin Steigerwald
2024-11-22 9:47 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-11-21 5:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 8:43 ` review process (was: underalated stuff) Michal Hocko
2024-11-21 9:03 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-11-21 20:17 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Simona Vetter
2024-11-21 21:26 ` Martin Steigerwald
2024-11-22 21:48 ` Dan Williams
2024-11-22 22:02 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <1592065022.1379875.1732602282945@fidget.co-bxl>
2024-11-26 6:27 ` Dylan
2024-08-29 9:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Jan Kara
2024-08-26 8:47 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: drop PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:48 ` Yafang Shao
2024-08-26 16:54 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 13:59 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 16:51 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 17:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-26 19:18 ` Michal Hocko
2024-08-26 19:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-08-28 4:11 ` Dave Chinner
2024-08-29 21:45 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-26 19:04 ` Kent Overstreet
2024-08-27 12:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-02 9:51 [PATCH 0/2 v2] remove PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-02 9:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-05 9:28 ` kernel test robot
2024-09-26 17:11 [PATCH 0/2 v3] remove PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
2024-09-26 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/2] bcachefs: do not use PF_MEMALLOC_NORECLAIM Michal Hocko
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