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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Jonathan McDowell <noodles@earth.li>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, dpsmith@apertussolutions.com,
	ross.philipson@oracle.com,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@opinsys.com>,
	Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@gmx.de>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KEYS/KEYRINGS" <keyrings@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:SECURITY SUBSYSTEM"
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/10] tpm: Cap the number of PCR banks
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 15:52:56 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aN0kKHvc0DRWJPbo@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aN0NcIlyrUsejMXW@kernel.org>

On Wed, Oct 01, 2025 at 02:16:04PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 10:17:22AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-09-30 at 15:36 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2025 at 12:09:15PM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2025 at 10:48:23PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > > +#define TPM2_MAX_DIGEST_SIZE	SHA512_DIGEST_SIZE
> > > > > +#define TPM2_MAX_BANKS		4
> > > > 
> > > > Where does this max come from? It matches what I see with swtpm by 
> > > > default (SHA1, SHA2-256, SHA2-384, SHA-512), so I haven't seen
> > > > anything that exceeds it myself.
> > > 
> > > I've never seen hardware TPM that would have more than one or two
> > > banks. We can double it to leave some room. This was tested with
> > > swtpm defaults.
> > 
> > I've got a hardware TPM that comes with 3 banks by default (it's a
> > chinese one which has sha1 sha256 and sm2).  swtpm isn't a good
> > indicator because it's default allocation is rather pejorative (it
> > disables sha1 whereas most field TPMs don't).
> > 
> > However, if you look at how the reference implementation works, the
> > user is allowed to define any number of banks they want, up to the
> > number of supported hashes.  The only limitation being there can't be
> > >1 bank for the same hash.  Field TPM implementations are allowed to
> > constrain this, but most don't.   The question you should be asking
> > here is not how many banks does a particular implementation allow by
> > default, but what's the maximum number a user could configure.
> 
> It needs some compilation time cap as the value comes from external
> device. If someone hits to that value, then it needs to be increased
> but as unconstrained it's a bug.

Maximum eight banks should be spacy enough for the time being (and for
the foreseeable future).

BR, Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-29 19:48 [PATCH v3 00/10] tpm: Decouple Trenchboot dependencies Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] tpm: Cap the number of PCR banks Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 11:09   ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-30 12:36     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 14:17       ` James Bottomley
2025-10-01 11:16         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-10-01 12:52           ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] tpm: Use -EPERM as fallback error code in tpm_ret_to_err Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 12:11   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-09-30 12:37     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] KEYS: trusted: Use tpm_ret_to_err() in trusted_tpm2 Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 12:12   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-09-30 12:39     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] tpm2-sessions: Remove 'attributes' from tpm_buf_append_auth Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 11:10   ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-30 12:39     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] tpm2-sessions: Umask tpm_buf_append_hmac_session() Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 11:11   ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-30 12:41     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] KEYS: trusted: Open code tpm2_buf_append() Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] tpm-buf: check for corruption in tpm_buf_append_handle() Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 11:13   ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-30 12:43     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] tpm-buf: Remove chip parameter from tpm_buf_append_handle Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 11:14   ` Jonathan McDowell
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] tpm-buf: Build PCR extend commands Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-29 19:48 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] tpm-buf: Enable managed and stack allocations Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 12:44   ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-09-30 13:11     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2025-09-30 13:20       ` Stefano Garzarella
2025-09-29 20:10 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] tpm: Decouple Trenchboot dependencies Jarkko Sakkinen

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