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From: Frederick Lawler <fred@cloudflare.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@huawei.com>,
	Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com>,
	Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/3] ima: Detect changes to files via kstat changes rather than i_version
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2026 14:01:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aY4xjh5YmZH8ujIX@CMGLRV3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50c5e00a8c336e8ab393457af009c26902114688.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 02:45:58PM -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Mon, 2026-02-09 at 15:21 -0600, Frederick Lawler wrote:
> > We uncovered a case in kernels >= 6.13 where XFS is no longer updating
> > struct kstat.change_cookie on i_op getattr() access calls. Instead, XFS is
> > using multigrain ctime (as well as other file systems) for
> > change detection in commit 1cf7e834a6fb ("xfs: switch to
> > multigrain timestamps").
> > 
> > Because file systems may implement i_version as they see fit, IMA
> > unnecessarily measures files.
> 
> Statements like this are wrong and certainly unnecessary. Refer to commit
> db1d1e8b9867 ("IMA: use vfs_getattr_nosec to get the i_version").  Directly
> accessing the i_version still worked on local filesystems.

Sorry, that's the intention I was trying to get across.

> 
> I'll be posting a patch shortly that falls back to directly reading the
> i_version, when STATX_CHANGE_COOKIE is not supported.  It cleans up the file
> change detection code, making it more readable and should simplify adding the
> ctime file change detection.
> 
> > We're proposing to compare against the kstat.change_cookie
> > directly to the cached version, and fall back to a ctime comparison,
> > if STATX_CHANGE_COOKIE is not supplied by vfs_getattr_nosec()'s result
> > mask.
> 
> Please rebase your proposed change on this patch.
>

Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for it.


      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-12 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-09 21:21 [PATCH v6 0/3] ima: Detect changes to files via kstat changes rather than i_version Frederick Lawler
2026-02-09 21:21 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ima: Unify vfs_getattr_nosec() stat comparisons under helper function Frederick Lawler
2026-02-09 21:21 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] ima: Make integrity_inode_attrs_changed() call into VFS Frederick Lawler
2026-02-09 21:21 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] ima: Use kstat.ctime as a fallback for change detection Frederick Lawler
2026-02-12 19:45 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] ima: Detect changes to files via kstat changes rather than i_version Mimi Zohar
2026-02-12 20:01   ` Frederick Lawler [this message]

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