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From: "Serge Hallyn (AMD)" <sergeh@kernel.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13] cred: gather the rules for acting on a task by uid
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 07:51:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <attYWxUJXfZX0MyN@shallyn-amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261018-b4-cred-ids-v1-1-7bdf2db4ea9f@toxicpanda.com>

On Sun, Oct 18, 2026 at 05:31:43PM +0000, Josef Bacik wrote:
> A number of operations let one task act on another without any capability,
> because the two belong to the same user: signals, scheduling attributes,
> priorities, resource limits, ptrace and more. Each of them compares the
> ids of the two credentials by hand. There are twelve such places, in six
> flavours that differ in which ids they look at, and nothing says that they
> belong together.
> 
> That makes them hard to review and hard to change. Nobody can tell from
> one of them whether it differs from its neighbour on purpose. Whoever
> wants to know what an equal uid is good for has to find all twelve, and so
> does whoever has to change it. A place that is overlooked is a hole.
> 
> Gather the rules in kernel/cred.c, side by side:
> 
>  rule     of the subject    of the object      euid 0 used for
>  signal   euid or uid       suid or uid        no     kill()
>  sigio    euid or uid       suid or uid        yes    SIGIO, SIGURG
>  sched    euid              euid or uid        no     scheduler, nice
>  ioprio   euid or uid       uid                no     ioprio_set()
>  move     euid              uid or suid        yes    cgroup v1, resctrl
>  control  one uid, one gid  all three of each  no     ptrace, prlimit, keys
> 
> Where it says so, a subject with euid 0 may act on anybody. That is a
> capability by another name, from before there were any, and it belongs
> with the rest: it is a uid that decides whether one task may act on
> another.
> 
> What each operation means by "the same user" has grown separately and
> cannot be changed now, so every rule is kept as it is. The functions only
> speak for the ids. A capability that does as well, and the LSM hook that
> goes with the operation, remain with the caller.
> 
> The callers are converted one by one in the patches that follow.

Overall I like this, thanks.

One question below:

> Assisted-by: LLM
> Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/security/credentials.rst |  19 ++++
>  include/linux/cred.h                   |  20 +++++
>  kernel/cred.c                          | 160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  3 files changed, 199 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/security/credentials.rst b/Documentation/security/credentials.rst
> index a39a2a2f67aa..b095c03b4531 100644
> --- a/Documentation/security/credentials.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/security/credentials.rst
> @@ -422,6 +422,25 @@ magic.  This may not be used for pointer members as what they point to may
>  disappear the moment the RCU read lock is dropped.
>  
>  
> +Comparing the Ids of Two Tasks
> +------------------------------
> +
> +Whether one task may act on another because both belong to the same user must not
> +be decided by comparing the ids of their credentials by hand.  The rules for that
> +are kept in one place:
> +
> +.. kernel-doc:: kernel/cred.c
> +   :doc: One task acting on another on the strength of its ids
> +
> +.. kernel-doc:: kernel/cred.c
> +   :identifiers: cred_ids_allow_signal cred_ids_allow_sigio
> +                 cred_ids_allow_sched cred_ids_allow_ioprio
> +                 cred_ids_allow_move cred_ids_allow_control
> +
> +.. kernel-doc:: include/linux/cred.h
> +   :identifiers: cred_ids
> +
> +
>  Altering Credentials
>  --------------------
>  
> diff --git a/include/linux/cred.h b/include/linux/cred.h
> index 6ef1750c93e2..c92031269f76 100644
> --- a/include/linux/cred.h
> +++ b/include/linux/cred.h
> @@ -171,6 +171,26 @@ extern int cred_fscmp(const struct cred *, const struct cred *);
>  extern void __init cred_init(void);
>  extern int set_cred_ucounts(struct cred *);
>  
> +/**
> + * enum cred_ids - which of its ids a subject acts with
> + * @CRED_IDS_REAL:      uid and gid
> + * @CRED_IDS_EFFECTIVE: euid and egid
> + * @CRED_IDS_FS:        fsuid and fsgid
> + */
> +enum cred_ids {
> +	CRED_IDS_REAL,
> +	CRED_IDS_EFFECTIVE,
> +	CRED_IDS_FS,
> +};
> +
> +bool cred_ids_allow_signal(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj);
> +bool cred_ids_allow_sigio(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj);
> +bool cred_ids_allow_sched(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj);
> +bool cred_ids_allow_ioprio(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj);
> +bool cred_ids_allow_move(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj);
> +bool cred_ids_allow_control(const struct cred *subj, enum cred_ids which,
> +			    const struct cred *obj);
> +
>  static inline bool cap_ambient_invariant_ok(const struct cred *cred)
>  {
>  	return cap_issubset(cred->cap_ambient,
> diff --git a/kernel/cred.c b/kernel/cred.c
> index 3df4e15bd67f..c067ef72b563 100644
> --- a/kernel/cred.c
> +++ b/kernel/cred.c
> @@ -540,6 +540,166 @@ void __init cred_init(void)
>  			      SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN | SLAB_PANIC | SLAB_ACCOUNT);
>  }
>  
> +/**
> + * DOC: One task acting on another on the strength of its ids
> + *
> + * A number of operations let one task act on another without any capability,
> + * because the two belong to the same user. What "the same user" means has grown
> + * separately for each of them and cannot be changed now. All of it is kept
> + * here, side by side, so that there is one place to read it.
> + *
> + * =======  ================  =================  ======  =====================
> + * Rule     Of the subject    Of the object      euid 0  Used for
> + * =======  ================  =================  ======  =====================
> + * signal   euid or uid       suid or uid        no      kill()
> + * sigio    euid or uid       suid or uid        yes     SIGIO, SIGURG
> + * sched    euid              euid or uid        no      scheduler, nice
> + * ioprio   euid or uid       uid                no      ioprio_set()
> + * move     euid              uid or suid        yes     cgroup v1, resctrl
> + * control  one uid, one gid  all three of each  no      ptrace, prlimit, keys
> + * =======  ================  =================  ======  =====================
> + *
> + * Where it says so, a subject with euid 0 may act on anybody. That is a
> + * capability by another name, from before there were any.
> + *
> + * These functions only speak for the ids. A capability that does as well, and
> + * the LSM hook that goes with the operation, remain with the caller.
> + *
> + * Do not compare the ids of two credentials by hand to decide whether one task
> + * may act on another. Use one of these, or add one.
> + */
> +
> +#define CRED_RUID	BIT(0)
> +#define CRED_EUID	BIT(1)
> +#define CRED_SUID	BIT(2)
> +
> +static bool cred_euid_is_root(const struct cred *subj)
> +{
> +	return uid_eq(subj->euid, GLOBAL_ROOT_UID);
> +}
> +
> +static bool cred_has_uid(const struct cred *cred, unsigned int ids, kuid_t uid)
> +{
> +	return ((ids & CRED_RUID) && uid_eq(cred->uid, uid)) ||
> +	       ((ids & CRED_EUID) && uid_eq(cred->euid, uid)) ||
> +	       ((ids & CRED_SUID) && uid_eq(cred->suid, uid));
> +}
> +
> +/*
> + * Is any of the @subj_ids of @subj any of the @obj_ids of @obj? No rule looks at
> + * the saved uid of the subject.
> + */
> +static bool cred_uid_match_any(const struct cred *subj, unsigned int subj_ids,
> +			       const struct cred *obj, unsigned int obj_ids)
> +{
> +	return ((subj_ids & CRED_RUID) && cred_has_uid(obj, obj_ids, subj->uid)) ||
> +	       ((subj_ids & CRED_EUID) && cred_has_uid(obj, obj_ids, subj->euid));
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_signal - do its ids allow a subject to signal an object?
> + * @subj: the credentials of whoever sends the signal
> + * @obj:  the credentials of the task it is for
> + *
> + * Return: true if the euid or the uid of @subj is the suid or the uid of @obj.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_signal(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	return cred_uid_match_any(subj, CRED_EUID | CRED_RUID,
> +				  obj, CRED_SUID | CRED_RUID);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_sigio - do its ids allow a subject to have SIGIO sent?
> + * @subj: the credentials of whoever made the object the owner of a file
> + * @obj:  the credentials of the task that SIGIO or SIGURG is for
> + *
> + * Return: true if cred_ids_allow_signal() says so, or the euid of @subj is 0.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_sigio(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	return cred_euid_is_root(subj) || cred_ids_allow_signal(subj, obj);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_sched - do its ids allow a subject to schedule an object?
> + * @subj: the credentials of whoever asks
> + * @obj:  the credentials of the task whose policy, affinity or nice value is
> + *        to change
> + *
> + * Return: true if the euid of @subj is the euid or the uid of @obj.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_sched(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	return cred_uid_match_any(subj, CRED_EUID, obj, CRED_EUID | CRED_RUID);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_ioprio - do its ids allow a subject to set an I/O priority?
> + * @subj: the credentials of whoever asks
> + * @obj:  the credentials of the task whose I/O priority is to change
> + *
> + * Return: true if the euid or the uid of @subj is the uid of @obj.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_ioprio(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	return cred_uid_match_any(subj, CRED_EUID | CRED_RUID, obj, CRED_RUID);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_move - do its ids allow a subject to move an object about?
> + * @subj: the credentials of whoever asks
> + * @obj:  the credentials of the task that is to be moved to another group of a
> + *        cgroup v1 hierarchy or of resctrl
> + *
> + * Return: true if the euid of @subj is the uid or the suid of @obj, or is 0.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_move(const struct cred *subj, const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	return cred_euid_is_root(subj) ||
> +	       cred_uid_match_any(subj, CRED_EUID, obj, CRED_RUID | CRED_SUID);
> +}
> +
> +/**
> + * cred_ids_allow_control - do its ids give a subject the run of an object?
> + * @subj:  the credentials of whoever asks
> + * @which: which of its ids @subj acts with
> + * @obj:   the credentials of the task that is to be traced, limited or the like
> + *
> + * The strictest of the rules, for what amounts to taking the object over. It
> + * fails for an object that has changed any of its ids, a set-id program say.
> + *
> + * Return: true if the uid @subj acts with is the uid, the euid and the suid of
> + * @obj, and the gid it acts with is the gid, the egid and the sgid of @obj.
> + */
> +bool cred_ids_allow_control(const struct cred *subj, enum cred_ids which,
> +			    const struct cred *obj)
> +{
> +	kuid_t uid;
> +	kgid_t gid;
> +
> +	switch (which) {
> +	case CRED_IDS_REAL:
> +		uid = subj->uid;
> +		gid = subj->gid;
> +		break;
> +	case CRED_IDS_EFFECTIVE:
> +		uid = subj->euid;
> +		gid = subj->egid;
> +		break;
> +	case CRED_IDS_FS:
> +		uid = subj->fsuid;
> +		gid = subj->fsgid;
> +		break;
> +	default:
> +		return false;

What do you think about putting a BUG HERE?  It's not actually
your intent for this ever to be called with 'which' not being
a valid value, right?

> +	}
> +
> +	return uid_eq(uid, obj->uid) && uid_eq(uid, obj->euid) &&
> +	       uid_eq(uid, obj->suid) && gid_eq(gid, obj->gid) &&
> +	       gid_eq(gid, obj->egid) && gid_eq(gid, obj->sgid);
> +}
> +
>  /**
>   * prepare_kernel_cred - Prepare a set of credentials for a kernel service
>   * @daemon: A userspace daemon to be used as a reference
> 
> -- 
> 2.55.0
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-23 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-18 17:31 [PATCH 00/13] cred: gather the "same uid" checks between tasks in one place Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 01/13] cred: gather the rules for acting on a task by uid Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:35   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-23 12:51   ` Serge Hallyn (AMD) [this message]
2026-10-23 13:03     ` Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 02/13] cred: add KUnit tests for the id rules Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 03/13] signal: use cred_ids_allow_signal() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 04/13] fcntl: use cred_ids_allow_sigio() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:37   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 05/13] sched: use cred_ids_allow_sched() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 06/13] MIPS: " Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 07/13] sys: use cred_ids_allow_sched() for setpriority() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 08/13] sys: use cred_ids_allow_control() for prlimit() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 09/13] block: use cred_ids_allow_ioprio() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 10/13] cgroup/v1: use cred_ids_allow_move() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 11/13] fs/resctrl: " Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 12/13] ptrace: use cred_ids_allow_control() Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-10-18 17:31 ` [PATCH 13/13] keys: " Josef Bacik
2026-10-18 17:34   ` sashiko-bot

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